FOX Lies!! Barack Obama Pastor Wright - Page 9

#81 03-23-2008, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico

If black people had owned white people, bought and sold white people, hung white people from trees, and made white people fight so hard just for basic human rights and dignity, then no, I would not consider them racist.

Look if guys like this preacher dont like the usa, then move out!!! Imagine how he would be treated in the middle east with these types of comments against the government and country. He would be in jail or worse. He is an idiot, matter of fact I would say his comments are not even those of a Christian.

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Rico · #82 03-23-2008, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by deacon blues

But it doesn't matter what other preachers are saying; they aren't pastoring a man running for Prez. I don't have a problem with BO's skin. I voted for Alan Keyes back in 2000 primaries, so my opposition to BO has nothing to do with a black man for president. His agenda is way too over the top liberal for me, no matter how eloquent he is. I'm opposed to his positions on the issues that matter most to me.

All I have to say is this: if BO doesn't win either the nomination or the general election, I hope to God his supporters don't revert to, "see America IS racist!" If he loses and the mantra is playing the race card, it will actually set America back on race relations rather than help. The fact that he has come this far shows that America has come a long way. Sure there is more room for improvement, but if the supporters of BO take a position of "either elect him America or its proof you're all racists", they will hurt their cause rather than advance it.

Well, I will admit that I am a bit nervous about what the response will be, regardless of how things go. I believe he will eventually go all the way to the White House because he seems to draw support from a wider range of Americans than Hillary or McCain. If he does win the Presidency I am worried that someone will either try to kill him, maybe even succeed. If he doesn't win either the nomination or the presidency, then I am worried about what it will do to race relations in this country.

#83 03-23-2008, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by deacon blues

But it doesn't matter what other preachers are saying; they aren't pastoring a man running for Prez. I don't have a problem with BO's skin. I voted for Alan Keyes back in 2000 primaries, so my opposition to BO has nothing to do with a black man for president. His agenda is way too over the top liberal for me, no matter how eloquent he is. I'm opposed to his positions on the issues that matter most to me.

All I have to say is this: if BO doesn't win either the nomination or the general election, I hope to God his supporters don't revert to, "see America IS racist!" If he loses and the mantra is playing the race card, it will actually set America back on race relations rather than help. The fact that he has come this far shows that America has come a long way. Sure there is more room for improvement, but if the supporters of BO take a position of "either elect him America or its proof you're all racists", they will hurt their cause rather than advance it.

BO is a good speaker and gets people going. He has no plans of what he wants to change. Also, he has no experience. Two years ago he is a state legislator and we want this clown caring around the suitcase. It has nothing to do with his color, as a matter of fact his color has been favorable for him. These new revelations have all but doomed his candidacy. If he wins the nomination he has alienated enough white democrats to where they probably will just not vote.

Hoovie · #84 03-23-2008, 11:39 PM

I agree with Deacon... as of right now it is McCains to lose.

Rico · #85 03-23-2008, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Discerner

Look if guys like this preacher dont like the usa, then move out!!! Imagine how he would be treated in the middle east with these types of comments against the government and country. He would be in jail or worse. He is an idiot, matter of fact I would say his comments are not even those of a Christian.

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Get over yourself Discerner (as if)! Now you are starting to sound like these people who think the answer to the immigration problem is to round them all up and deport them. "If you don't like it here then get out!" This isn't the middle east, so that has nothing to do with the conversation. Apparently, only your point of view is the one that counts, in your mind at least.

#86 03-23-2008, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico

Well, I will admit that I am a bit nervous about what the response will be, regardless of how things go. I believe he will eventually go all the way to the White House because he seems to draw support from a wider range of Americans than Hillary or McCain. If he does win the Presidency I am worried that someone will either try to kill him, maybe even succeed. If he doesn't win either the nomination or the presidency, then I am worried about what it will do to race relations in this country.

Im sure riots would be the way to go. So you are saying he should be voted in for President just because he is a black man? I'm sure he appeals to a lot less people after we find out what kind of extremist views he has been influenced by the last 20 years. Might as well been at a muslim training school in the middle east.

Rico · #87 03-23-2008, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Discerner

Im sure riots would be the way to go. So you are saying he should be voted in for President just because he is a black man? I'm sure he appeals to a lot less people after we find out what kind of extremist views he has been influenced by the last 20 years. Might as well been at a muslim training school in the middle east.

I have said nothing about him being voted in as president just because he is a black man. I have, however, said that this country is more ready for a black man as president than it is for a woman as president.

The more you post, the more your prejudices are manifesting themselves. Now he may as well have been at a muslim training school in the middle east. Wonderful. Just wonderful.

#88 03-23-2008, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico

Get over yourself Discerner (as if)! Now you are starting to sound like these people who think the answer to the immigration problem is to round them all up and deport them. This isn't the middle east, so that has nothing to do with the conversation. Apparently, only your point of view is the one that counts, in your mind at least.

You are right, I am glad you know my politics. I do feel that we should round up all the ILLEGALS in this country for BREAKING the law. If someone came and robbed your house tonight you would want action taken against them, however, you probably think we should let these illegals be rewarded for breaking the law. Ridiculous. I pay too much in taxes to have to clothe, shelter, and provide free medical care to citizens of our friends to the south.

By the way, I forgot the middle east has nothing to do with this conversation. I also forgot about Obama's pastors comments about 911. I guess those had nothing to do with the middle east.

This preacher needs to keep on talking, and talking, and talking. I hope he keeps up with this rhetoric. Best thing that can happen for Barack.

#89 03-23-2008, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico

I have said nothing about him being voted in as president just because he is a black man. I have, however, said that this country is more ready for a black man as president than it is for a woman as president.

The more you post, the more your prejudices are manifesting themselves. Now he may as well have been at a muslim training school in the middle east. Wonderful. Just wonderful.

Me racist? Im not defending a bigot. I would abhor these comments coming across any church I attended. As a matter of fact it would be serious enough that i would not attend that church. I dont care what race of people he was talking about.

Rico · #90 03-23-2008, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Discerner

You are right, I am glad you know my politics. I do feel that we should round up all the ILLEGALS in this country for BREAKING the law. If someone came and robbed your house tonight you would want action taken against them, however, you probably think we should let these illegals be rewarded for breaking the law. Ridiculous. I pay too much in taxes to have to clothe, shelter, and provide free medical care to citizens of our friends to the south.

By the way, I forgot the middle east has nothing to do with this conversation. I also forgot about Obama's pastors comments about 911. I guess those had nothing to do with the middle east.

This preacher needs to keep on talking, and talking, and talking. I hope he keeps up with this rhetoric. Best thing that can happen for Barack.

We are probably going to have to take it to another thread, but I would like for you to explain me exactly how we are supposed to round up 12-14 million people and send them back to their native countries. You tell me how much something like that would cost, where the money would come from, and exactly how the logistics would play themselves out. Start a thread on it.