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Old 03-24-2008, 10:22 AM
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The number of One Million was American Casualties only. There is no telling how many Japanese were spared by the action.

Even the Japanese have stated as much.
Japan's civilian population were starving, which our nation must have known before dropping the bomb killing innocent people. I can't except that Jesus approved the killing of so many innocent civilians who were trying to survive massive food shortages.

FOXNEWS.COM HOME > POLITICS AP Poll: 60 Percent Say WWIII Is Likely
Sunday, July 24, 2005

Two-thirds of Americans say the use of atomic bombs was unavoidable. Only 20 percent of Japanese felt that way and three-fourths said it was not necessary. Just one-half of Americans approve of the use of the atomic bombs on Japan

But military instructor Hugh "D.J." Carlen, who lives near Fort Knox, Ky., said: "I don't think we really needed to do it. We darn near had the country starved to death. We could have effected a blockade."

Skepticism about the bombings is widespread in Japan.

"I often hear the bombings were not necessary," said Toyokazu Katsumi, a 27-year-old engineer from Yokohama. "They just wanted to experiment with them."

For 63-year-old Masashi Muroi of Tokyo, the attacks with atomic bombs "were mass, indiscriminate killings and perhaps violated international law."

For younger people, World War II is something seen only on newsreel footage, in the movies and in history books. For those who lived through it, the memories are vivid.

Hideko Mori, a 71-year-old Tokyo housewife, said that as a child in Nagano in central Japan, she and her neighbors had to take refuge to avoid American air raids.

"Around the time I was in the 5th grade, when we went to school, instead of attending classes, we plowed the school grounds and planted potatoes and pumpkins, and we dug up bomb shelters," she said.
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Old 03-24-2008, 10:29 AM
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“We bombed Hiroshima. We bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye.

“Kids playing in the playground. Mothers picking up children after school. Civilians, not soldiers, people just trying to make it day by day."


“Violence begets violence. Hatred begets hatred. And terrorism begets terrorism."

You mean the comments from JW's sermon above? The short answer would be yes his comments were justifiable.
What did we ever do to beget violence from Ben Laden?

Japan did not fly Airplanes into the towers on 9-11.

It was not Japan dancing in the streets that day.

Japan is a freind to America after all that has happened between our countries.

America does not have hate and racism now for the Japanese.
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Old 03-24-2008, 10:34 AM
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Whether Fox News lied or not is irrelevent; the fact that Obama allowed JW to be his pastor for 20 years says enough for me. No one can tell me that he isn't poisoned by the hatred JW poured out of his own mouth.
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Old 03-24-2008, 10:36 AM
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We were in a war.
We had been attacked by Japan.
The Japanese had vowed to fight to the death.
An invasion of Japan with a slow complete ground military operation and occupation was considered and the loss in both American and Japanese lives was considered.
The use of the Bomb was an option which saved many lives --both Japanese and American.
Don't you think that we could have demonstrated the power of the A-bomb by dropping it in a remote area away from populated cities? We could have potentially avoided killing hundred of thousands of people by scaring the Japenese that their cities would be destroyed instead of using it the way we did.
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I think some of his statements are over the top but we must remove the beam from our own eyes before trying to remove the mote out of the eyes of another.

The Republicans are terrified of facing Obama in a General Election...therefore they will stop at nothing to destroy his reputation before the eyes of the American people.

I think a preacher should be able to preach what they think. I'll tell you the SAME thing Wright told you...American will face the wrath of God for a host of sins and among them are her sins against entire people groups. When God judges nations he does so according to the full cup principle. One day America's cup will be full and the Lord will force her to drink his wrath.
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Old 03-24-2008, 10:39 AM
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TRFrance,
We are asked to understand and appreciate the anger......No wonder, for them, the changes comes slowly.
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If by "them" you mean black Americans, I hope you don't have the opinion that all or even most blacks think the way Jeremiah Wright does. I think that would be an unfortunate misperception of the way things actually are.

And the stuff that Jeremiah Wright preaches is not the norm in black churches. It is definitely out there, and is even popular in some circles, but it doesn't represent the majority of "black church" experiences on Sunday mornings.

I frankly think Jeremiah Wright has doing a disservice to the image of black churches, and so has the media, by giving people the impression that this stuff is normative in black churches, when it is definitely not.
TRFrance,
I thought you would be interested in this article:

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Faith, Race and Politics
By Harry R. Jackson, Jr.
Monday, March 24, 2008

Once on the air (Hannity and Colmes), my jitters disappeared. It was a great opportunity for me to share that the Church must lead the way in solving the problem of race in America. My loyalty to biblical faith is greater than my allegiance to my ethnic group. Many ministers under 40 years of age share my feeling, while those over 60 are often entrenched in an antiquated, old school, civil rights mindset.

After the program, I made a decision to be a greater agent of racial reconciliation than ever before. In 1981, I led a team that pioneered a new church in Corning, New York that was 95 -97% white. As the senior leader, I had to confront my own anger and bitterness in order to develop the church. My white co-author, Tony Perkins, and I share a common goal to assist the Church in uniting to solve the seven most pressing problems of our day, including race.
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/H...e_and_politics
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Old 03-24-2008, 10:40 AM
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Whether Fox News lied or not is irrelevent; the fact that Obama allowed JW to be his pastor for 20 years says enough for me. No one can tell me that he isn't poisoned by the hatred JW poured out of his own mouth.
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What did we ever do to beget violence from Ben Laden?

Japan did not fly Airplanes into the towers on 9-11.

It was not Japan dancing in the streets that day.

Japan is a freind to America after all that has happened between our countries.

America does not have hate and racism now for the Japanese.
Coop,

Ferd asked me if JW's comments about Japan were justifiable which I answered in my post.

No one was suggesting that Japan had anything to do with 9/11.

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Coop,

Ferd asked me if JW's comments about Japan were justifiable which I answered in my post.

No one was suggesting that Japan had anything to do with 9/11.

cb1
I know that......but because we bombed Japan; America should just set back, Suck it up and say we deserved 9-11?
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Old 03-24-2008, 11:07 AM
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