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Old 04-01-2008, 01:05 PM
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We have solved the problem of it costing too much $$$ to execute people in Texas. We simply get it done quick.

every dead killer in texas has been detered from killing again.
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you believe what you want dude, and so will i, no use crossing swords for us, you aint listening and neither am i, dt
So you believe it's Christian to support a system that has and will wrongfully execute another human being based on it being a bubble on the list of things supposed conservatives support?

Amazing....
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We have solved the problem of it costing too much $$$ to execute people in Texas. We simply get it done quick.

every dead killer in texas has been detered from killing again.
By doing it quickly you prevent necessary appeals and thereby increase the chances that you'll wrongfully execute a person.

And you see this as a virtue?
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Old 04-01-2008, 01:09 PM
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So you believe it's Christian to support a system that has and will wrongfully execute another human being based on it being a bubble on the list of things supposed conservatives support?

Amazing....
those are your assumptions, so you keep them , i believe it is the right thing to do with killers, and rapists, dt
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those are your assumptions, so you keep them , i believe it is the right thing to do with killers, and rapists, dt
Ah...but not everyone convicted of killing or committing rape is actually guilty of the charge. You're assuming that our system is right 100% of the time. The fact is that our system isn't right 100% of the time.

Let's look at it this way...let's say your son was wrongfully convicted for capital murder and faced the death penalty. Would you support the system?

I've noticed something about modern conservative Christians. They are disassociated from the issues they profess to support. If it were themselves or someone they loved they will typically acknowledge the flaw in their reasoning.
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Ah...but not everyone convicted of killing or committing rape is actually guilty of the charge. You're assuming that our system is right 100% of the time.

Let's look at it this way...let's say your son was wrongfully convicted for capital murder and faced the death penalty. Would you support the system?

I've noticed something about modern conservative Christians. They are disassociated from the issues they profess to support. If it were themselves or someone they loved they will typically acknowledge the flaw in their reasoning.
well you havent noticed that bout me, so keep your assumptions to your self, i have believed what i believe all my life, and i am a conservative, you sound like a lib to me, no offense meant, dt
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By doing it quickly you prevent necessary appeals and thereby increase the chances that you'll wrongfully execute a person.

And you see this as a virtue?
well, if you want to have a discussion on the Death Penalty that's fine by me. but you started off in such a way that I already view you with some suspicion.

No conservitive can support the DP? Because you have decreed it?
No real christian can? because it doesnt match your doctrine?


We will first have to deal with this sudden offering of your supremacy on the subject before delving into the details of the death penalty.
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And here's a contradiction in logic...conservatives typically hold that the government is inefficient and sloppy. Yet they will trust that the government's criminal justice system is right 100% of the time and accept empowering the government to execute those it prosecutes.

Such contradictions in logic are typically among those who have suffered from brain washing or social conditioning. Modern Christian conservatives have been socially conditioned by the ultra-right wing of our system to embrace things thinking Christians would never embrace.
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well, if you want to have a discussion on the Death Penalty that's fine by me. but you started off in such a way that I already view you with some suspicion.

No conservitive can support the DP? Because you have decreed it?
No real christian can? because it doesnt match your doctrine?


We will first have to deal with this sudden offering of your supremacy on the subject before delving into the details of the death penalty.
No conservitive can support the DP?

Do conservatives value individual life and liberties? How can conservatives embrace a system that has and will wrongfully prosecute an American citizen?

No real christian can? because it doesnt match your doctrine?

Do Christians value individual life and liberties? How can Christians embrace a system that has and will wrongfully prosecute another human being?

Are those wrongfully executed merely acceptable losses to preserve the government's power to execute citizens? Are they like the necessary eggs broken to bake the cake? How can a Christian embrace such a position?
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And here's a contradiction in logic...conservatives typically hold that the government is inefficient and sloppy. Yet they will trust that the government's criminal justice system is right 100% of the time and accept empowering the government to execute those it prosecutes.

Such contradictions in logic are typically among those who have suffered from brain washing or social conditioning. Modern Christian conservatives have been socially conditioned by the ultra-right wing of our system to embrace things thinking Christians would never embrace.
listen bro, i am not going to talk to you anymore but i take offense to your nonsensical comment that just because i dont agree with you, i dont think or am brainwashed, my pastor and many other people i know wishes you are right but alas for them you arent, enjoy your little world, i am mine, god bless, dt
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