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Old 03-18-2007, 07:39 AM
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Flippantly Flaunted Spiritual Liberties

Flippantly Flaunted Spiritual Liberties .....

Seems that there are those that love to hang around the edges of UPCI ministry......

They love the fellowship......

They love the conferences and brotherhood.....

And some find great joy in flippantly flaunting their spiritual liberties.....

Saying things like....

I can do this.....

I am able to participate in this certain activity.....

There is no scripture for this particular thing so I do it.....

Or my family does.......

The manual does not prohibit this so I will do it......

My membership in said organization does not say that I cannot do this.....

My brothers......

The flaunting of spiritual liberties is a reproach....

It reaks of legalism....

Legalism is the attempt to see how close to the world one can go but still be in the church.....

Spiritual liberties flaunted in the face of others is legalistic.....

More plainly it is classless.....

Ah yes...we have all seen the ultra conservatives in their moments of holier than thou ism's

They are wrong....

But just as wrong is the flippant flaunting of spiritual liberties.......

This is more legalistic than the ultra converative's stand on many issues.....

Whatever happened to the Pauline concept of....

If meat offend my brother then I will eat no meat?

What we see today is.....

Meat offends my brother, so I offer him cowpie.....
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Old 03-18-2007, 07:41 AM
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Very good points.
Attitudes can stink on both sides of any issue or judiciously drawn line.
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Old 03-18-2007, 08:12 AM
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I have never flaunted my being Liberal to the likes of your standards.

It sounds to me like you have only seen the negative from a small number of folks.

If I took the small cross section of folks in my city who go the UPCI church I attended for 27 years and the snarl on their face.

Should I use that to prove some are just holier than thou???

There will be occasion for us to cross paths at conferences, weddings, funerals etc.

Much of this is to be considered because we have family, friends etc in the organization.

To me your comments sound like these interactions might be threatening to you.

Don't show up at our holy meetings, because you are now lost...

In that some may see that giving up some things not in the scriptures might not be a chasing God out of your life experience.

Your comments are more the norm.

We do not sit around our churches talking about how much bondage you and your associates are still bound in.....

We look to walk among you and call you brother and sister.

All you can congure up is you are offending me...

Show us by your humility, Apostolic power, revivial, healings, leading of the spirit, growth, Baptism in the Name of Jesus, Oneness, HG outPouring, Gifts of the Spirit......

Sorry to say these are all attributes of the church I attend as well.

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Old 03-18-2007, 08:21 AM
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If meat offend my brother then I will eat no meat? Well let HIM get over it. The weakling.
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Old 03-18-2007, 08:43 AM
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Offence goes both ways.

I must be careful to not offend my brother with my liberty but my brother also has a responsibility to not offend with his lack of it.

I eat meat. He's a vegetarian. May both be allowed to eat in peace and harmony.
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Old 03-18-2007, 08:51 AM
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Love the title of this thread........ "Flippantly Flaunted Spiritual Liberty"

It could be retitled ...

Flippantly Flaunted Spiritual Strictures or ....

Flippantly Flaunted Spiritual Suppression


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Love the title of this thread........ "Flippantly Flaunted Spiritual Liberty"

It could be retitled ...

Flippantly Flaunted Spiritual Strictures or ....

Flippantly Flaunted Spiritual Suppression


Not coming from his side.
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Not coming from his side.
I understand his side. I'm just having fun.
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By the way...........

Welcome to AFF Bro R Kent Smith!
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I have never flaunted my being Liberal to the likes of your standards.

It sounds to me like you have only seen the negative from a small number of folks.

If I took the small cross section of folks in my city who go the UPCI church I attended for 27 years and the snarl on their face.

Should I use that to prove some are just holier than thou???

There will be occasion for us to cross paths at conferences, weddings, funerals etc.

Much of this is to be considered because we have family, friends etc in the organization.

To me your comments sound like these interactions might be threatening to you.

Don't show up at our holy meetings, because you are now lost...

In that some may see that giving up some things not in the scriptures might not be a chasing God out of your life experience.

Your comments are more the norm.

We do not sit around our churches talking about how much bondage you and your associates are still bound in.....

We look to walk among you and call you brother and sister.

All you can congure up is you are offending me...

Show us by your humility, Apostolic power, revivial, healings, leading of the spirit, growth, Baptism in the Name of Jesus, Oneness, HG outPouring, Gifts of the Spirit......

Sorry to say these are all attributes of the church I attend as well.

Nathan Eckstadt
Sorry to have gotten under your skin......
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