Giftings, Prayer Language and Father God

[rgcraig]

PO - shouting isn't in the Bible either, so does that bother you?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

PO - shouting isn't in the Bible either, so does that bother you?

Hilluwl - in the sense of rejoicing, a celebration of thanksgiving for harvest.

That denotes some movement.

Halal - to be clear, to shine, to boast, to rave, to be clamorously foolish.

That also denotes some movement.

I think however someone chooses to express themselves is within the perimeters of these definitions and therefore, Biblical.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Hilluwl - in the sense of rejoicing, a celebration of thanksgiving for harvest.

That denotes some movement.

Halal - to be clear, to shine, to boast, to rave, to be clamorously foolish.

That also denotes some movement.

I think however someone chooses to express themselves is within the perimeters of these definitions and therefore, Biblical.

You were talking about words not being in the Bible. If prayer language means speaking in tongues, then it's in the Bible.

You are in a bad mood though, so you should go sit on that rock.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

You were talking about words not being in the Bible. If prayer language means speaking in tongues, then it's in the Bible.

You are in a bad mood though, so you should go sit on that rock.

Prayer language isn't even found in a definition. I think it's ridiculous terminology. Sorry!

Right, I better get back on my rock. I might get banned or offend someone.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Prayer language isn't even found in a definition. I think it's ridiculous terminology. Sorry!

Right, I better get back on my rock. I might get banned or offend someone.

I don't use that term myself either.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

I don't use that term myself either.

I never will use that terminology as it seems, IMO, to point to what I do and not what God does in me and I never say, "Father God". If I pray I'm going to say - "IN JESUS NAME!"

When I speak His name I am saying that from creation to the angels above the Mercy Seat to the angels in the tomb who moved from their place as they didn't need to stand there anymore - the veil was rent, the middle wall of partition is gone - I am saying I believe and acknowledge your work, who you are, what you have done - Jesus!!!

There is no other name given among men whereby we MUST be saved!

[Ron]

What about opening prayer and addressing him as "Heavenly Father?"



BTW my present Pastor uses the term "Father God!"

[tbpew]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

My problem with "Father God" is because His name is "Jesus". It is as though the person praying is not really clear on who they are talking to.

I had a homeschool mother pray for me, over the phone, one morning because I wasn't feeling well. She said, "Father God..........."

I was sitting there listening and thinking - "Do you know who God is or not?"

I'm sorry, that annoys me, since I'm annoyed today anyway!!!

since you are being painfully clear that you are annoyed, any highly engaging discussion would seem best to be deferred.

I find considerable agreement that the phraseology 'father God' does leave a wide open door for son God and Holy Ghost God.

Father is an excellent and appropriate attribute to acknowledge God.
and
God is an excellent and appropriate position to use when acknoweldging your creator.

Bringing the two into the same phrase does bring with it the overtones of a trinitarian philosophical view of God's person.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by tbpew

since you are being painfully clear that you are annoyed, any highly engaging discussion would seem best to be deferred.

I find considerable agreement that the phraseology 'father God' does leave a wide open door for son God and Holy Ghost God.

Father is an excellent and appropriate attribute to acknowledge God.
and
God is an excellent and appropriate position to use when acknoweldging your creator.

Bringing the two into the same phrase does bring with it the overtones of a trinitarian philosophical view of God's person.

Well, I feel a little better and I'm thankful you clarified what you meant. I totally agree!!! You always word things in a very excellent way!

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Ron

What about opening prayer and addressing him as "Heavenly Father?"



BTW my present Pastor uses the term "Father God!"

You have a good point. "Heavenly Father" vs. "Father God".

I think tbpew's post pretty well is a good explanation of how I feel on that.

Being raised Catholic I think I just get to the source now - Jesus. I didn't know that when I was lighting candles. I did like dropping the quarters in the slot when I was a young girl. Just liked hearing them "clink". Oh, such devotion!!! lol