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Old 05-31-2008, 08:34 PM
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Re: STUNNING! UPC pastors says" NO more Blood Song

[QUOTE=cneasttx;479125]You mean no more
There is power, power, wonder working power, in the______of the lamb?
Oh, the_____that gives me strength from day to day, it will never lose it's power?[/QUOTE]


This is one of specifics songs that was brought up in the meeting!

"the blood will never lose its power"... Pastor says that song will frieghten today's unchurched visitor !!!
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Old 05-31-2008, 08:35 PM
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The truth is that songs or messages about the blood, Calvary, the Rapture, hell, eternity, etc. do not move people anymore. This generation has become desensitized to most anything that would affect their emotions.

If truth be known, the pastor is probably not seeing the emtional response he wants to see and is blaming it on the content of the songs that should bring conviction in favor of "feel good" songs that absolve folks from feeling conviction. JMHO.

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Old 05-31-2008, 08:39 PM
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I recently talked to a leader in another church who was upset over the pastor's decision. The pastor met with the Min. of Music , musicians and praise singers and told them there would be No more songs about the Blood!

His reasoning was that it scares today's visitors who have no church background.


What do you think about this ? I think this would upset me too
Is the pastor affiliated with the UPC?
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The truth is that songs or messages about the blood, Calvary, the Rapture, hell, eternity, etc. do not move people anymore. This generation has become desensitized to most anything that would affect their emotions.

If truth be known, the pastor is probably not seeing the emtional response he wants to see and is blaming it on the content of the songs that should bring conviction in favor of "feel good" songs that absolve folks from feeling conviction. JMHO.


You are saying the cross no longer convicts??

now I would concur that hell no longer scares anyone

when our church sings songs about the blood, especially when we reach back to the old ones, they are always effective. I am frankly tired of us trying to lower the bar to appease sinners who have little or no knowledge of God. why should we gage our services strictly according to their standard?
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I recently talked to a leader in another church who was upset over the pastor's decision. The pastor met with the Min. of Music , musicians and praise singers and told them there would be No more songs about the Blood!

His reasoning was that it scares today's visitors who have no church background.


What do you think about this ? I think this would upset me too
A Baptist teacher once told me anybody that couldn't say or didn't want to hear about the Blood of Jesus, has serious problems.

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He most definitely is
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Re: STUNNING! UPC pastors says" NO more Blood Song

I remember a woman telling me that her son was "traumatized" by seeing a depiction of Jesus on the cross at a church. He was pretty upset to think that someone was actually nailed to a cross.

Think we ought to take the cross out of all songs, references, and sermons?
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You mean no more
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This is one of specifics songs that was brought up in the meeting!

"the blood will never lose its power"... Pastor says that song will frieghten today's unchurched visitor !!!
Didn't Andrae Crouch write that song? I love that song. I was just singing it when I went to get a cup of coffee.
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You are saying the cross no longer convicts??

now I would concur that hell no longer scares anyone

when our church sings songs about the blood, especially when we reach back to the old ones, they are always effective. I am frankly tired of us trying to lower the bar to appease sinners who have little or no knowledge of God. why should we gage our services strictly according to their standard?
As a rule such songs and messages do not move people the way they used to. I travel extensively and am amazed at the seeming calloused disinterest in such topics when they are preached. I am not saying there is never a response. Just a general malaise that seems to be slipping in upon the church at large.

The cross should always convict. But let us not forget that at the actual Calvary the majority of folks mocked, ridiculed and gambled while the blood flowed. Only a few were actually moved.
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Didn't Andrae Crouch write that song? I love that song. I was just singing it when I went to get a cup of coffee.


Yes, he wrote that song. He and his twin sister pastor a church here in CA.
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