Could You Spot Jezebel in Your Church?

[George]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Hmmm. I don't know that I agree. Adam and Eve were pure and naked. In their most pure state, they had no clothes on at all.

No, I think holiness is a state God induces upon our hearts, and modesty is an expression of courtesy and concern for others, a symptom of more maturity, but not necessarily more holiness.

There are some people I think would be quite modest naked....
and there are some who would be very immodest naked.

[DividedThigh]

Originally Posted by George

There are some people I think would be quite modest naked....
and there are some who would be very immodest naked.

and some just down right disgusting, lol

[Rico]

Originally Posted by El Predicador

So without Jezebel Ahab would have been perfect?

Ahab was not right before God to begin with, that is the reason he married the painted hussy.

Very telling.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

But holiness will do something to the outer appearance.

Scripture please.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Hmmm. I don't know that I agree. Adam and Eve were pure and naked. In their most pure state, they had no clothes on at all.

No, I think holiness is a state God induces upon our hearts, and modesty is an expression of courtesy and concern for others, a symptom of more maturity, but not necessarily more holiness.

Now this will preach!!

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Rico

Scripture please.

Rico,
Interesting question - which scripture?

If He is Holy and He imparts that to us at salvation, why the teaching in the epistles on dress, conduct, etc.?

Doesn't it mean that we go on to perfection/maturity as we follow Christ?

Is the Holiness He imparts to us the end or is it the means by which we grow?

[DividedThigh]

that which ceases to grow starts to die, dt

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Again this is very simple listen up.
"You can look the part and NOT be the part but you cannot be the part and not look the part.!"
Shout now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:happy dance

14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
2 Cor 11:14 (KJV)

How does what you are saying fit it with this scripture? Basically, you are saying that somone cannot be evil without looking evil. This scripture says Satan is transformed into an angel of light.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by DividedThigh

that which ceases to grow starts to die, dt

Right and looking at Romans 6:19 "I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness."

Holiness is defined as - purification and sanctification. Therefore, it's a process.

So can you become more holy or do we just say more consecrated?

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Rico,
Interesting question - which scripture?

If He is Holy and He imparts that to us at salvation, why the teaching in the epistles on dress, conduct, etc.?

Doesn't it mean that we go on to perfection/maturity as we follow Christ?

Is the Holiness He imparts to us the end or is it the means by which we grow?

Sister, I have grown weary of reading this "inner holiness will produce outer holiness appearance (meaning lining up with dress standards)" malarky. The light we are supposed to let shine does indeed come from the inside, but the clothes we wear isn't the switch that turns it on or off.