Obama Changes Presidential Seal for his campaign!

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Ferd

your link proves the point. Mr. Obama failed to salute the flag (place hand over heart) during the National Anthem as Baron said.


what ever offering Mrs. Obama might make concerning her "first time I have been truely proud of my country as an adult comment"

dont undo the fact that she made that comment.

Right, and Brit Hume says - It's what it is and will be what it is.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by 1399

So when he expressed his willingness to bomb Pakistan (who harbors terrorists) and was criticized for being to eager to bomb an "ally", he was really expressing that he ants America to lose the war on terrorism.

Where did he propose to make drastic cuts to the military?

YES! Bombing an ally???? are you kidding? especially a very important ally in the War on Terror?

Baraks idea is abandont Iran and bomb allies in an effort to win the war?


again, that is certainly a form of partiotism I am not really fond of...


and you make a GREAT point... yet another reason to not vote for B. H. Obama. He advocates bombing allies. That's something not even Jimmy Carter would do!

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Whether we believe it or not we are living in the last days. If Obama wins or loses that is yet to be seen however he and what he stands for is mostly evil...
People in my church are astonished that educated America would follow such a man.

I voted Republican last time because I am against the evils of abortion, homosexuality is abominable, and so on.

However, with this "Christian" President, homosexual marriage is now sanctioned and legal in 2 states. There are OTHER evils besides abortion and homosexuality. When I vote for Obama, I vote against these evils.

We are living in the last days and our country, the world, will decline morally with or without Mr. Obama.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Ferd

Rico, im asking you to live by the same rule, i live by. When I say why I dont like Obama, I give very spicific reasons. reasons based on what Obama has said or done.

you say McCain changes his mind. give us the list of things he has changed his mind on?

if you can do that great! if not, then I consider you a poor source.

and the comment above about Sunnis, Shiites and AQ is propaganda. care to site the source?

Ferd, just for you I am going to look up the clips I have seen of McCain flip flopping on issues. Keep in mind that I am working right now, so it will be around another hour and half before I can look them up. When I find them, I will post them in this thread. Fair enough?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Esther

Continuously moving or disrepecting the AMERICAN FLAG is serious to me!

Right!!!

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

and for my not caring for him has nothing to do with his color...I am sure some might think that is the reason...not in a million years...

Sister, with all the black folks in your family I find it impossible for you to have anything against him because of his color.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Rico

Ferd, just for you I am going to look up the clips I have seen of McCain flip flopping on issues. Keep in mind that I am working right now, so it will be around another hour and half before I can look them up. When I find them, I will post them in this thread. Fair enough?

I don't put value in many clips as they can be edited. I'd rather read a transcript.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by 1399

I voted Republican last time because I am against the evils of abortion, homosexuality is abominable, and so on.

However, with this "Christian" President, homosexual marriage is now sanctioned and legal in 2 states. There are OTHER evils besides abortion and homosexuality. When I vote for Obama, I vote against these evils.

We are living in the last days and our country, the world, will decline morally with or without Mr. Obama.

would you mind giving us an example of these other evils?

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by 1399

I voted Republican last time because I am against the evils of abortion, homosexuality is abominable, and so on.

However, with this "Christian" President, homosexual marriage is now sanctioned and legal in 2 states. There are OTHER evils besides abortion and homosexuality. When I vote for Obama, I vote against these evils.

We are living in the last days and our country, the world, will decline morally with or without Mr. Obama.

What has Bush done that has furthered homosexual marriage and abortion?

He has appointed two conservative Justice to the SC who oppose abortion and has opposed gay marriage on a federal level which is all he has the authority to do.

[tstew]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Perhaps some things reported are alarmist in nature.

I still contend that his changing of the seal, in lieu, of his non-wearing of the American flag did him harm. It was posted on CNN and some other sites, so I think the American people take issue with it.

I just don't see a decorated war hero tampering with the Seal. Can't see McCain doing that.

Very poor choice for this young, arrogant, skinny, punky fellow. JMHO, of course.

Punky - love that word!! It sounds and fits so nicely - like a glove!



I just got off the phone with all four major regional offices of the McCain campaign. You don't need to thank me.

I just don't think that some people realize how it comes across when they make the extreme accusations and then it doesn't hold up to scrutiny. It does cause particularly younger people to not listen to any of it. And that could be bad.
It's kind of like the group that yell "racism" in every situation. Eventually nobody takes them seriously about anything.
You made a key statement earlier in jest when you said "and since I don't like him anyway". You have clearly made your mind up and this was never an issue for you no matter who the Democrat was. My point is that there are millions of people out there who are actually looking for info to make a decision. When they run into bold, extreme statements that get them alarmed, but then dig deeper and see that there was nothing to it, it will turn them off. That is what is happening with a lot of young and undecided people. I have been saying from day one that turning mole hills into mountains are detremental because nobody will be talking about the actual mountains....or when you do talk about the mountains, noone will care to listen.