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Old 06-23-2008, 04:35 PM
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Re: God Does Not Use The "works Of The Devil"

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How do you know it's not the Luke passage that is mis-translated?

Could it be possible that there are aspects of God's character that are beyond our comprehension as we have nothing in our experience to compare them with?
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No, contradictory statements cannot be reconciled. I know that no scripture in it's original autograph, would contradict another. The true meaning got lost in translation. Don't forget, your OT script was Hebrew. My NT script was from Greek. Just take whatever interpretation you want. That's what we all do anyway.
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Re: God Does Not Use The "works Of The Devil"

Lar is right in his premise of this thread. He did not say that God didn't use sinners. He said He does not use the "works" of the devil.
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thanks Cindy
Sure, I think they were looking for something complicated.....lol
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How do you know it's not the Luke passage that is mis-translated?

Could it be possible that there are aspects of God's character that are beyond our comprehension as we have nothing in our experience to compare them with?
No I don't think so. If you want to see what God the Father is like, look at Jesus. (Jn 1:18; 14:9)
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Lar is right in his premise of this thread. He did not say that God didn't use sinners. He said He does not use the "works" of the devil.
God uses the 'works' of the devil. Sickness in the form of paralysis of the lame man that Jesus healed. Jesus said that the man's sickness was so that Christ could raise him up.
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No I don't think so. If you want to see what God the Father is like, look at Jesus. (Jn 1:18; 14:9)
My point is that there are aspects of God's character that you can't understand no matter how hard you try such as eternality, omniscience, all powerful, sovereignty, transcendence, immanence, etc. The greatest minds of this world can't understand it so how can you or me?

Ecclesiastes 8:16-17 - 16When I applied my heart to know wisdom, and to see the business that is done on earth, how neither day nor night do one’s eyes see sleep, 17then I saw all the work of God, that man cannot find out the work that is done under the sun. However much man may toil in seeking, he will not find it out. Even though a wise man claims to know,he cannot find it out.
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My point is that there are aspects of God's character that you can't understand no matter how hard you try such as eternality, omniscience, all powerful, sovereignty, transcendence, immanence, etc. The greatest minds of this world can't understand it so how can you or me?

Ecclesiastes 8:16-17 - 16When I applied my heart to know wisdom, and to see the business that is done on earth, how neither day nor night do one’s eyes see sleep, 17then I saw all the work of God, that man cannot find out the work that is done under the sun. However much man may toil in seeking, he will not find it out. Even though a wise man claims to know,he cannot find it out.
I agree with you. When I read Rev 4:8:

8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come. (KJV)

What I get from this is that these four beasts in looking at the throne of God are so enthralled with the majesty of God that at every turn they see a new dimension of God.

I think there is so much to the glory, majesty, and complexity of God that there is no possible way we could ever (at least on earth) comprehend the completeness of God.
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No, contradictory statements cannot be reconciled. I know that no scripture in it's original autograph, would contradict another. The true meaning got lost in translation. Don't forget, your OT script was Hebrew. My NT script was from Greek. Just take whatever interpretation you want. That's what we all do anyway.
So you are saying truth is unknowable?????? God can't preserve His word???? A little study in the subject might do some good.
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