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Old 07-03-2008, 09:33 AM
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And yet again ... that's there ...

It's what has happened here that affects us all ...

That's like telling a mother or child who has suffered domestic or sexual abuse ... that they need to understand it happens in other homes ...
No, that would be like telling a mother or child who has suffered domestic or sexual abuse at the hands of a black man, to not suspect all black men of having the same lack of character. And to add as a footnote, that white men can be abusive as well. It is the character of the person, not the color of the skin that is important.

It is bothersome when black people, who have risen up against inequality and racism, then express their own racism by denigrating the character of white people as a whole, instead of recognizing that color doesn't matter.
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Old 07-03-2008, 09:35 AM
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funny you mentioned sharecroppers dan, i knew a few as a kid
The effects of sharecropping in the South were felt well into the 1970's and 1980's ... and in some ways even today.

From attitudes to the effects on the land (geography real estate, etc.)
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Old 07-03-2008, 09:36 AM
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And yet had she busted out w/ OH BEAUTIFUL FOR SPACIOUS SKYS ... a la Ray Charles it would not be a biggie.

I'm all for decorum and yes... this is where some have a legitimate quibble ...

but my gut tells me that had she chosen an "accepted" standard we wouldn't even know about this story.

The fact remains the patriotic standard about love of country and God she substituted has a storied past ... it did not come out of nowhere .... and is an accepted standard at many venues ... including public schools.

This is not some artist burning a flag while singing to our nation.

Perspective and balance are sorely needed ...

Carry on ...
I disagree. The occasion was the mayor's annual State of the City address. Such formal functions always open with the National Anthem. If the mayor's lackeys had wanted to embellish the program (and I'm certain they had their own ideas) the certainly could have done so without offending the sensibilities of everyone else in the city.

And to address the question about support for the singer that was raised by another poster - the local news has been strangely silent on this issue. It seems that no one has stepped up to support this woman's actions. And she herself has apologized.

"Lift E'vry Voice" is a swell song. But what this artist did with it was indefensible. She herself seems to have realized that.
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Do you think folks would get upset if I was chosen to lead the "Pledge of Allegiance" at a state congessional meeting and I changed a few words to include the UPCI in it?
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I disagree. The occasion was the mayor's annual State of the City address. Such formal functions always open with the National Anthem. If the mayor's lackeys had wanted to embellish the program (and I'm certain they had their own ideas) the certainly could have done so without offending the sensibilities of everyone else in the city.

And to address the question about support for the singer that was raised by another poster - the local news has been strangely silent on this issue. It seems that no one has stepped up to support this woman's actions. And she herself has apologized.

"Lift E'vry Voice" is a swell song. But what this artist did with it was indefensible. She herself seems to have realized that.
I doubt it ... perhaps she regrets the publicity ... but if you read a little about her past and her views you'll find out that she is indeed very different and apt to "creative license" in the future.
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No, that would be like telling a mother or child who has suffered domestic or sexual abuse at the hands of a black man, to not suspect all black men of having the same lack of character. And to add as a footnote, that white men can be abusive as well. It is the character of the person, not the color of the skin that is important.

It is bothersome when black people, who have risen up against inequality and racism, then express their own racism by denigrating the character of white people as a whole, instead of recognizing that color doesn't matter.
Agreed, Miss B.

Equality is not really equality when one race/creed/political group/etc. has greater opportunity because of said differences - no matter which side of the fence it's on.
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Do you think folks would get upset if I was chosen to lead the "Pledge of Allegiance" at a state congessional meeting and I changed a few words to include the UPCI in it?
Apples and oranges ... the words she replaced were still about her country ... not her religious affiliation ...

Creative thought, PM, however ... just like Rene.
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Do you think folks would get upset if I was chosen to lead the "Pledge of Allegiance" at a state congessional meeting and I changed a few words to include the UPCI in it?
i personally would be, throw tomatoe mad, lol
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The issue isnt Slavery Dan. The issue here is the harm this person has done to race relations.

you dont pour battery acid in an open wound and suggest your attempting to help.
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Apples and oranges ... the words she replaced were still about her country ... not her religious affiliation ...

Creative thought, PM, however ... just like Rene.
Yet, unlike Rene, I have a feeling PM would edit himself and not be so self-serving.
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