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Old 07-14-2008, 09:28 PM
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Re: Wine For Medicinal Purposes ?

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If drinking red wine for your cholesterol is sinning, then taking Nyquil for your cough is also sinning. Red wine is a whole lot better for your liver than any of the 'statin' cholesterol drugs. Those drugs are so rough, you have to have liver function tests every few months.
I have a feeling that if some drug company took red wine, relabeled it with a new name and called it 'medicine' the same people here that say drinking is wrong would say it was ok to "take" this drug if it was prescribed to them.

I'll go on to state my personal opinion--I don't think drinking is a sin, as long as it's done in moderation. Why is it any worse for my body to drink an alcoholic drink or two (i like appletini) every day than it is for me to be drinking a whole 2-liter of Mt.Dew every day? It all comes down to whether you do it too much or not. The Mt.Dew wouldn't be bad for me if i drank a small amount with meals. But those of us who drink soft drinks all the time know that the amount of calories and sugar in those is making us overweight and causing diabetes. Just like drinking a lot of alcohol will cause you to be drunk, and can cause health problems over time. If it's done in moderation, it's OK.

For those who have no self-control, stay away from alcohol. Stay away from Hershey bars and ice cream too.
Thar ya go! Ya just insulted the redneck drink a choice!
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Old 07-14-2008, 09:29 PM
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Re: Wine For Medicinal Purposes ?

http://www.gospelway.com/morality/drinking_alcohol.php
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Old 07-14-2008, 09:32 PM
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Re: Wine For Medicinal Purposes ?

One more for consideration.http://www.1timothy4-13.com/files/teach/bib&wine.html
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Re: Wine For Medicinal Purposes ?

This subject is a tough one for me. First of all, I'm a non drinker. I drank one margurita in my life in my college days and that thing was so nasty I never took another drink. There is a history of alcoholic tendencies in my extended family and I think drinking alcohol is better left undone for me personally.

I do believe that wine in moderation is not a sin. If a person drinks it for health benefit or enjoyment and doesn't allow it to begin to rule in their life and take lordship of their life, why would I condemn that person.

There is absolutely zero doubt in my mind that Christs first miracle was fermented wine. The jewish custom of that day was to drink fermented grape juice at weddings. Had the "wine" been grape juice one is hard pressed to explain why the jews present would have been so complimentary given that custom and their expectations.

The scripture that would prohibit me personally from drinking wine in public would be the one warning against offending a brother and causing him to stumble. I would worry that a weaker brother would see me partaking and possibly fall to a weakness of his own. Scripture is clear in warning against behavior that contributes to that. If I were to partake it would not be in a public setting due to that aspect.

Scripture deplores and is clear on the sinfulness of drunkeness, but a blanket condemnation of the responsible enjoyment of wine would contradict scripture.
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Scott, you've read some Gentry- You should read these and then make up your mind.

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This subject is a tough one for me. First of all, I'm a non drinker. I drank one margurita in my life in my college days and that thing was so nasty I never took another drink. There is a history of alcoholic tendencies in my extended family and I think drinking alcohol is better left undone for me personally.

I do believe that wine in moderation is not a sin. If a person drinks it for health benefit or enjoyment and doesn't allow it to begin to rule in their life and take lordship of their life, why would I condemn that person.

There is absolutely zero doubt in my mind that Christs first miracle was fermented wine. The jewish custom of that day was to drink fermented grape juice at weddings. Had the "wine" been grape juice one is hard pressed to explain why the jews present would have been so complimentary given that custom and their expectations.


The scripture that would prohibit me personally from drinking wine in public would be the one warning against offending a brother and causing him to stumble. I would worry that a weaker brother would see me partaking and possibly fall to a weakness of his own. Scripture is clear in warning against behavior that contributes to that. If I were to partake it would not be in a public setting do that fact.

Scripture deplores and is clear on the sinfulness of drunkeness, but a blanket condemnation of the responsible enjoyment of wine would contradict scripture.
Great post. If you cannot drink without sinning by all means DON'T drink.
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Great post. If you cannot drink without sinning by all means DON'T drink.
Not everyone knows thier limits right away... and once sucked in, it can be powerful and hard to climb back out.

That's where often we overlook the cry of wisdom in the church.
Not legalism,
Not rules,
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Rum and Coke please.
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Not everyone knows thier limits right away... and once sucked in, it can be powerful and hard to climb back out.

That's where often we overlook the cry of wisdom in the church.
Not legalism,
Not rules,
Wisdom.
This applies to a lot of issues beyond alcohol. What right do we have of adding to or taking away from Scripture?! Just stick with the Book.
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This applies to a lot of issues beyond alcohol. What right do we have of adding to or taking away from Scripture?! Just stick with the Book.
Indeed it does.

I'm not adding or taking away, not sure who you're referring to.
I'm also not arguing. Just making some biblical statements and observations.
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