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Old 07-15-2008, 09:16 AM
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"There is evidence that drinking red wine may reduce your risk of heart disease. This benefit is most likely due to a substance called resveratrol found in the skin and seeds of grapes — especially dark red and purple grapes. Resveratrol is also found in grape juice — especially juice made from the dark purple Concord grapes.

Recent studies have suggested that red and purple grape juices may provide the same heart-healthy benefits of red wine, including:

* Reducing the risk of blood clots
* Reducing low-density lipoprotein (LDL, or "bad") cholesterol
* Preventing damage to blood vessels in your heart
* Helping maintain a healthy blood pressure

Both red wine and grape juice also contain antioxidants called flavonoids, which have been shown to increase your high-density lipoprotein (HDL, or "good") cholesterol and lower your risk of clogged arteries (atherosclerosis), and may help lower blood pressure."



www.mayoclinic.com
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Unsweetened grape juice has about 1/3 the calories as sweet wine. It's also lower in sodium and higher in potassium. I'm not sure what the actual sugar content is in either, but if something has less calories, then you are simply drinking LESS CALORIES. LOL!!!!! Unless you are a diabetic, the sugar content is irrelevant. It's the calorie content you need to worry about.

This link was provided at the Dr. Oz website (www.realage.com):

"...A study at Glasgow University measured levels of antioxidants -- thought to have a protective effect against cancer -- in a range of popular juice drinks. Purple concord grape juice came out on top, with the highest levels and range of antioxidants. Incidentally, this juice has the same level of these compounds as Beaujolais red wine.

It's recommended that we add a glass of grape juice to our daily diet and count it as one of our five daily fruits and vegetables...."
www.thecancerblog.com

I think it's safe to say that if concord grape juice has the same level of antioxidant compounds as red wine, then drinking 1 cup of one will have the same benefit as drinking 1 cup of the other.
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interesting. Cancer fighting properties are the same but what about heart health?

some have suggested red wine will aid heart health. is the same true for grape juice?
See post #121.
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also from the mayclinic.com

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/alcohol/SC00024
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See post #121.
got that and edited my post. thanks. good information.
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Excellent article.

So far, everything I've read has stated that wine has health benefits (in moderation only), but grape juice has the same benefits without the risks.

Also, the calorie content is lower in unsweetened grape juice, (or about the same, depending on what wine you're comparing it to), so weight gain shouldn't be a concern anymore than it would be with drinking wine.

The problem is, though, many people buy juice "drinks" or juice cocktails, and those, of course, DO have added sugar and thus more calories. Judicious grocery shopping is the key--not choosing wine over juice.
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Im interested in this comment from your doctor. Is there some kind of documentation that points to this?
All I know is what she told me. I have looked at the sugars in most grape juices while shopping and they are comparable to pop.
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All I know is what she told me. I have looked at the sugars in most grape juices while shopping and they are comparable to pop.
Check into unsweetened grape juice, and compare it to the caloric content of your wine.

Btw, wine also has about the same caloric content as pop.
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I will be honest here, I have heard both what Auquila and MrsBratt have posted.

Now having the backing of the Mayo Clinic gives some heft to that argument, but the French paradox remains in my mind.

The French Paradox is that the French eat a high calorie, high fat, high cholesterol diet and have less obesity, less heart disease and less cancer than Americans.

the main difference is consumption of wine.

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I will be honest here, I have heard both what Auquila and MrsBratt have posted.

Now having the backing of the Mayo Clinic gives some heft to that argument, but the French paradox remains in my mind.

The French Paradox is that the French eat a high calorie, high fat, high cholesterol diet and have less obesity, less heart disease and less cancer than Americans.

the main difference is consumption of wine.
I agree, there may be some merit to the fermentation process making a difference--however, it also can be an overall approach of moderation, which applies to both the wine and the food--an approach which the United States is sorely lacking.

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