See, this is what Im talking about. it is all just as clear as mud!
To me it's obvious that Scripture allows a limited use of alcohol with restrictions as it does on other things. I also understand the personal choice to completely abstain. I would never consciously flaunt my liberty on this issue.
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i am sure there is medicinal use of wine, i am glad it worked out for you aquila, but i will not and have not drunk alcohol, lol, i had to laugh my dr told me the same thing about grape juice when i had surgery a month ago to much sugar, lol
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A product of a pentecostal raisin, I am a hard man, just ask my children
I agree, logically. However, my father was a mean drunk before he was saved, so its difficult for me to call wine a blessing. I don't call it sin, and I personally prefer to take wine for communion, but at the same time, in our home, drinking is strongly discouraged.
I know. My dad was a very mean drunk too sis. I believe he is responsible for what he has done; the alcohol was a blessing he abused.
Why is it that the church wants to treat everyone like they are children. Not teaching folks to make godly decisions but rather go to the pastor for a list of what we can do, can't do, what to watch and what not to watch. Scripture teaches that one who is in Christ should have self control. Several people have made fun of the fact that people can drink and be self controlled. Is that not what Jesus did? Those who cannot control themselves should not condemn those who live a Christ like life and enjoy the very same things that he did.
Amen! I know a couple of pastors like this and some of their flock are always trying to push the limits and go right up to the line set for them by their Pastor. It drives the Pastor crazy and he's always putting out fires to keep them all in line like a grade school class.
A simple explanation of allowing Christ to be Lord over every decision and every aspect of their life would be much more effective. If people can't control themselves and allow him to be Lord concerning alcohol, they won't be able to in the relationships in their life, the things they watch, listen to and read, the things they choose to eat, or exercising and taking care of their physical bodies. Being renewed in our minds daily and allowing His spirit to lead and guide our lives intricately will take care of most of these issues.
Scripturally, a drink of wine is not sinful, BUT I think there are plenty of good practical reasons to abstain from drinking completely, AND there are LOTS of scriptures that indicate a lack of wisdom in drinking. Add to that a culture of excess, and a history of alcoholism in my family, and that's enough to advise my children against drinking whatsoever.
Miss Bratty with another succinct and wise post.
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Psalm 19:14
Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.
How about marijuana for medical use? I have a young man in my church that asks me this question the other day. His doctor wants to prescribe it to him because of some eye problems that he is having. It is in the form of a pill, so I just told him don’t come to church laughing. I didn’t have the answer, but I do know people in the church that are hooked on prescription drugs, and they think its ok. How would some of the pastors on here answer the question about taking a prescription drug that includes marijuana?
A little wine for the stomach and little pot for the healing of the eyes, we could have some good church on Sunday.
I have an OBGYN friend who tells his patients to limit their intake of fruit juice. Very high sugar and calories. He tells them to eat the fruit instead of drink it.
My mother's dietician suggests the same... eat that fruit!
__________________ Mrs. LPW
Psalm 19:14
Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.
My favorite juice is carrot--but only made fresh. The canned stuff is NASTY!!!! It takes quite a few carrots to make a glass of juice.
That brings back some horrible memories from about a year ago. Someone told my husband about all the carrot juice they were drinking, how good it was for them. He jumped on the bandwagon and bought a juicer. He would make a huge pile of it and leave it in the fridge... however... occasionally he wouldn't clean out the juicer after making his carrot juice and... OHHHHHHHHHh... I can't talk about it....
So glad the Lord answered prayer and he quit making it.
__________________ Mrs. LPW
Psalm 19:14
Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.
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