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Old 07-21-2008, 07:03 PM
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Re: Everyone's Apostolic: A Word of Caution

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Post something we can take to your pastor to use against you and we will! Otherwise, quit yer whinin!
wanna hear something funny? my pastor would probably say, 'yep that sounds like our Mark, there isn't anything he can do that would surprise me'

so I guess I gotta stop whinning
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Re: Everyone's Apostolic: A Word of Caution

Well it seems to me that there are predators of every kind on facebook and all these other spaces as well.

Wouldn't the sensible thing be, monitor ALL of your children's internet activities? Not just the Everyones Apostolic... Why are we singling this particular forum out?

(and for the record, I don't have an Everyone's Connected or Everyone's Apostolic account and don't plan to, so I'm not defending anyone.... don't know any of them)
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Re: Everyone's Apostolic: A Word of Caution

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wanna hear something funny? my pastor would probably say, 'yep that sounds like our Mark, there isn't anything he can do that would surprise me'

so I guess I gotta stop whinning
In that case, confess it all, Brother!
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Old 07-21-2008, 10:57 PM
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Excellent post.

I have told every adult in our church to never, ever be alone with a minor child that is not their own. I suppose that would extend to internet posting as well.

We live in a sick world.
Very good advice. I would hope all pastors would teach that to their people, especially those in involved with youth.
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Old 07-22-2008, 09:14 AM
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Wouldn't the sensible thing be, monitor ALL of your children's internet activities? Not just the Everyones Apostolic... Why are we singling this particular forum out?
Well, I can't speak for the others; only myself.

Let me try to itemize:

1) Since this is an "apostolic" board and EA is an "apostolic" networking site, logic dictates that it would be discussed here more than Myspace.

2) My discussion contribution was simply that I was banned, presumably for blog posts that dared mention that many at the merger believed salvation was at repentance and offered unvarnished views of prominent pentecostals by one who knew them.

I found ironic that while open and honest discussion is apparently not welcome, I was around long enough to notice a 42 year old man sent a "friends request" to my 18 year old daughter. Apparently they have no problem with pentecostal horn dog men hitting on 18 year olds.

I've said before, I believe one of the main, hidden (as opposed to these "standards" that preachers with their heads in the sand can "see") cancers of the oneness pentecostal sect in 2008 is porn addiction runninng rampant since preachers have to have the internet as a toy and therefore cannot ban it in the homes of "saints" who have no foundation of principle but simply wait for the next legalist to tell them what to do. How sad that is the limit of their concept of "living for God."

3) Now Mrs.LPW, you seem like a very nice lady so please don't take personal offense at this.

But I find it VERY amusing that most of the arguments of "ole time pentecostals" on this board to excuse the inconsistency and hypocrisy in the sect is to scream back: " But others do it too!"

BOOM was one of the worst (or best) at this. Any sexual sins or hypocrisy in a legalistic preacher exposed brought him out hollering: "BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CATHOLICS!??!!"

In this case, you don't think this "apostolic" site should be singled out because Myspace is just as bad.

Do you people not see in this line of reasoning the hole big enough you could run five elephants through it side-by-side?

"Ole Time Pentecost" constantly screams: "We have the TRUUUUTHHHH!!! .... We have the POWWWWERRRRR!!!!! .... We're better than those dead, dry, denominals!!!! (their word).

Well ... then on message boards and in the lives of their members ... the fruits should bear it out, shouldn't it?

But when confronted with evidence to the contrary, all of a sudden the excuse is: "the Methodists and Catholics do it too! ... Myspace is just as bad!!! ... WHY single US out???"

Simple.

Because you claim to be so much better than everybody else and have the truth that if others don't have, they are going to hell and claim to have overcoming power that others don't have.

So when the FRUIT bears out that that is apparently not the case ... then you simply must live with the consequences.
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Old 07-22-2008, 09:17 AM
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Re: Everyone's Apostolic: A Word of Caution

Well ... *said in pseudo-Southern twang*
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Old 07-22-2008, 09:25 AM
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Re: Everyone's Apostolic: A Word of Caution

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Well, I'll repeat a post too and here's my big concern.

I WAS around long enough to notice this:



Now I can understand your concern PP, for the "social engineering" aspect. I don't personally care because my daughter has "nothing to lose" and frankly, while she remains pentecostal, DOES take with a grain of salt what is said, thinks for herself and does not swallow hook, line and sinker everything some overweight backwater pentecostal preacher spits and screams from some pulpit.

So she has "nothing to lose" since dad is not a preacher.

But yeah, I could see where this could be used with a motive of indictment in mind.

You know for sure that happens.

However, I do find it ironic that while open discussion of pentecostal history is apparently not welcome - middle-aged men trolling to be friends with teenaged young women is.

Now I'm not saying that every 42 year old man who sends a friends request to an 18 year old girl is a rapist or a molester.

BUT ... he's at least some guy with a fantasy of getting him a young chick. I'll say that without apology.

Of course you expect that on Myspace.

But some people believe nothing like that could happen on an "apostolic" board.

Parents, if you have minor children on there, you'd better be just as cautious as you are with Myspace or any other "worldly" networking site.
Timlan,

I am 42 years old, and while I am sure you were not pointing fingers, I must say the assertion that any 42 year old is having a fantasy for a young chick is offensive.

Firstly, any of the younger girls I have as "friends" their, are people that I all ready know. Daughters of friends, or my own daughter for example. Secondly, I sent not a one of them friend requests, I responded to them because I am all ready their frind in "real space", let alone cyber-space. Thirdly, you won't see many minors as my friends. If someone in that age group requests a friendship and I do not know them, it will be rejected.

Does this sort of thing happen? Sadly, you are correct, it does. I trust it is the exception and not the rule. If it is the rule, then we are in a sad state, indeed.
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Old 07-22-2008, 09:26 AM
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Re: Everyone's Apostolic: A Word of Caution

i think that info mining for some evil intent is awful, you would think that an apostolic website would at least be honest, so far at least i trust the folks on aff, so far, dt
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Re: Everyone's Apostolic: A Word of Caution

my wife and i monitor all our kids computer stuff, and we banned them from my space, i guess ea will get banned too, lol
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Timlan,

I am 42 years old, and while I am sure you were not pointing fingers, I must say the assertion that any 42 year old is having a fantasy for a young chick is offensive.

Firstly, any of the younger girls I have as "friends" their, are people that I all ready know. Daughters of friends, or my own daughter for example. Secondly, I sent not a one of them friend requests, I responded to them because I am all ready their frind in "real space", let alone cyber-space. Thirdly, you won't see many minors as my friends. If someone in that age group requests a friendship and I do not know them, it will be rejected.

Does this sort of thing happen? Sadly, you are correct, it does. I trust it is the exception and not the rule. If it is the rule, then we are in a sad state, indeed.
Well Mike, you can think it's "offensive" all you want to.

I've been around the block and I stand by what I said.

Now let me requote the entirety of what I said:

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Now I'm not saying that every 42 year old man who sends a friends request to an 18 year old girl is a rapist or a molester.

BUT ... he's at least some guy with a fantasy of getting him a young chick. I'll say that without apology.
And now of course, you come back with all the obvious exceptions which of course we both take for granted that everyone understands. Heck, my daughter is on my friends list on Myspace.

But ANY 42 year old that sends friends requestson social networks to 18 year olds HE'S NOT KIN TO etc. etc. has some fantasy - buried though it may be - of getting to know a younger woman in a romantic way to compensate for an unhappy marriage or just the fact he's a dud with women.

I've played pool in enough bars and sat on enough bar stools to see one of the BIGGEST frauds in human interraction: the guy who claims to just want to be a woman's "friend" and have heart-to-heart talks with her and all that.

Don't make me laugh.

He wants the same thing we all want (or wanted) when we went out.

At least some of us are honest about it.

THAT guy finds his parallel in "ole time pentecost" in the preachers that do the counseling sessions with women AND with old men trying to feel young again by hitting up on teenaged girls on these "apostolic" Myspaces.

And again it's worth repeating - I find it ironic that I am banned for not being "apostolic" enough for their tastes but who knows what trolling goes on there?

And what is OBSCENE about it is, unlike Myspace, this puts more innocents in harms way because parents think this is a "sanctified" place.

So be offended all you want Mike.

I stand behind what I said - it's sound and it's the truth.

And you and others can just wrestle with it all you want to.
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