Have conservatives lost their fear of God?

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Falla39

Sis. Rhoni,

I understand what you are saying.

But what I saw was a "divide and conquor" spirit that was bringing division
to homes and churches. And it has only intensified since then. I am speaking
of a "spirit" and it is not the "Holy Spirit". When the enemy came in like a
flood, many did not recognize or "discern" of what spirit it was. It did not
manifest itself in its fulness at first. It began to steal the blessings of the
Lord right from underneath those who would not believe it. No one could tell
them anything. They would have to learn the hard way. The way of the
transgressor is hard. Just as children who will not listen to their godly elders.
Parents, grandparents, and spiritual fathers. I have seen then, wishing that
they could go back, back to when their lives were intact, not divided and
scattered. If many could have seen the end results and wages of following
after that "spirit", they would have run so fast.

We must ALL humble ourselves under the Mighty Hand of God and He will
lift us up and restore that which the cankerworms, etc., and all the other
worms, and all the other destroyers have devoured or attempted to devour.

Sis. Rhoni, you know I love you and the words written are not to offend
at all. There are not personally addressed to you.
It just makes me so angry at the enemy and his attempted destruction of
God's heritage. There will come an end to it and God will rise up and take
over His Planet. The earth is the LORD's and the fulness thereof. God did
allow satan to put his hands on Job just long enough to make him look like
the "spirit" he was. A destroying spirit. Then God showed satan just how
much Job loved Him, even after all he went through. His testings.
Look at Saul, after he was knocked off his high horse, received a new name
and was one of the greatest men of God and wrote most of the NT letters.

Love and Blessings to all,

Falla39

Sis. Falla,

There is no way you could offend me, besides...I totally agree with you. You are filled with the word, live the word, and have the fruits of the Spirit in operation in your life.

Love & Blessings, Rhoni

P.S. I never mind someone using the scripture to set me straight! It is only those bad spirits that I want to...

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Sister it is by the Word of God. My wife and I study long and hard. All our friends and foes will tell you we are the first to make correction if we are doing something unscriptural. It's the swing of the pendulum that we have witnessed over the years and it cuts both ways. It hits liberals and conservatives. Cognitive Dissonance is a deadly force that affects all religions and mind sets. We (my beautiful and very lovely wife and I) want to make sure we are open and honest enough with our selves to be able to follow God and not false traditions of the ancients that have been borrowed by modern men.

Do conservatives truly believe in the Holy Spirit at work in the life of a believer in regard to personal changes in character, places you should/should not go, things you should/should not wear, or do they think God needs a hand from them?



Moral, and laws of decency haven't changed. Grace isn't a license to post on a Apostolic Christian Forum and surf porno web sites. What does it mean when Luke 1:6, that the parents of John the Baptist were blameless concerning the Law? Sister Rhoni, all is well, contrary to popular belief it was the Jews who were hypocrites that found loop holes in the Law, who Jesus and Paul came against. Jesus never blasted the poor publican who was trying to live for God. Jesus came against the religious hypocrite who were acting like they had it together. Sister, religious hypocrites rest in both camps.




Ever been to Fort Lauderdale? You don't need any special reason to give you preaching material.

Sister Rhoni, in the Roman Empire what you wore is who you were. Clothing meant everything to Romans. How a senator's wife dressed was important and how a harlot dressed showed the Empire who she was. This still remains true today. Jesus told the Pharisees that He thought they looked beautiful on the outside, but inwardly they were full of the bones of dead men. You see Sister Rhoni, Jesus wanted, as did the Romans, that the "inside" should match the "outside".



I hope this helped.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

Bro. B,

This is a good post...the only thing I might add:

Sister Rhoni, in the Roman Empire what you wore is who you were. Clothing meant everything to Romans. How a senator's wife dressed was important and how a harlot dressed showed the Empire who she was. This still remains true today. Jesus told the Pharisees that He thought they looked beautiful on the outside, but inwardly they were full of the bones of dead men. You see Sister Rhoni, Jesus wanted, as did the Romans, that the "inside" should match the "outside".

We do not live in Rome and people in our culture are not necessarily marked in status according to their clothing unless it is the tags/name brands that make socioeconomic classes.

I do believe in modesty: for women; that their underarms, cleavage, and thighs are not visible, and men that their chests, legs, and underarms ar not showing. But to classify men or women based on color, fashion, and labels...well, again...this isn't Rome.

Blessigns, Rhoni

P.S. I do agree in separation of sexes, modesty, and hairstyles. Speaking of hair...women should have long hair and men short hair. Nothing grates on my nerves worse than a woman having a butch haircut, and a man having a longer ponytail than mine.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

Bro. B,

This is a good post...the only thing I might add:

Thank you.

Originally Posted by Rhoni

We do not live in Rome and people in our culture are not necessarily marked in status according to their clothing unless it is the tags/name brands that make socioeconomic classes.

That is totally untrue, Sister Rhoni if you believed that, you would not buy another pair of shoes or another outfit. We as Americans are dictated by fashion. It's just another cultural mooring left to us from the Roman Empire.
The Jews also were locked into "You are what you wear."

People also react differently to people who dress certain ways. When I was a biker I dressed like a biker. The leather jacket and cut off denim jacket, with leather gloves, sunglasses and engineer boots sent a message to all around me. When I dress in a three piece suit another message is sent. When the homeless around the bust station and the city of Fort Lauderdale approach people you can see the reaction. Who you are is how you look. It is a basic, and everyone from lawyers to mothers understand this system. Jesus is Matthew 23, laid it out chapter and verse, the religious looked beautiful on the outside, but their insides were rotten.

Jesus loved holiness attire, but He didn't like that there was no holiness on the inside.

Originally Posted by Rhoni

I do believe in modesty: for women; that their underarms, cleavage, and thighs are not visible, and men that their chests, legs, and underarms ar not showing. But to classify men or women based on color, fashion, and labels...well, again...this isn't Rome.

Blessigns, Rhoni

Sister Rhoni, this may not be literally the Roman Empire, but we react the way the Romans and the early Hebrews reacted to outer attire just as we Americans do today. Try going to get a job wearing just any old thing. Try going to court looking like you've been shot out of a canon. The principle remains the same and Jesus preached it, and taught it. The apostles followed Jesus' teachings. Paul was a Rabbi, and a Roman citizen, Paul was diligent to look his station.

Originally Posted by Rhoni

P.S. I do agree in separation of sexes, modesty, and hairstyles. Speaking of hair...women should have long hair and men short hair. Nothing grates on my nerves worse than a woman having a butch haircut, and a man having a longer ponytail than mine.

See my dear Sister, if we can't teach it out of a Bible, then what we should do is placed in large gray areas. Women should have long hair? Well, if the Bible doesn't say anything about it then why "should" I even be bothered by the thought of what I "should" do. If the scripture doesn't say love my brother, or do good to them that hate me, then why "should" I keep to any of those suggestions.

Personal convictions and agendas blur the lines and therefore shut down the whole program.

Chapter and verse may just save this country from the hell it is heading for, we just need to have people be strong enough to preach it.

Lord bless you my friend

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

[Sister Alvear]

I think loosing the fear of God happens in both among conservatives and liberals...The fear of GOD is a heart thing...
If the fear of God meant for me to wear a dress (yes, that is what I wear) then all the thousands and thousands of little nuns running around in Brazil would be saved...not to mention the millions of moslem ladies that you can only see their eyes...
I am conservative so please do not misquote me or take this out of context...but it is not fear that cause me to dress the way I do...
IF fear caused me to dress a certain way then something would be wrong...
Maybe it would be best to do a Bible study on WHAT is the fear of God.

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Thank you.




That is totally untrue, Sister Rhoni if you believed that, you would not buy another pair of shoes or another outfit. We as Americans are dictated by fashion. It's just another cultural mooring left to us from the Roman Empire.
The Jews also were locked into "You are what you wear."

People also react differently to people who dress certain ways. When I was a biker I dressed like a biker. The leather jacket and cut off denim jacket, with leather gloves, sunglasses and engineer boots sent a message to all around me. When I dress in a three piece suit another message is sent. When the homeless around the bust station and the city of Fort Lauderdale approach people you can see the reaction. Who you are is how you look. It is a basic, and everyone from lawyers to mothers understand this system. Jesus is Matthew 23, laid it out chapter and verse, the religious looked beautiful on the outside, but their insides were rotten.

Jesus loved holiness attire, but He didn't like that there was no holiness on the inside.

Sister Rhoni, this may not be literally the Roman Empire, but we react the way the Romans and the early Hebrews reacted to outer attire just as we Americans do today. Try going to get a job wearing just any old thing. Try going to court looking like you've been shot out of a canon. The principle remains the same and Jesus preached it, and taught it. The apostles followed Jesus' teachings. Paul was a Rabbi, and a Roman citizen, Paul was diligent to look his station.



See my dear Sister, if we can't teach it out of a Bible, then what we should do is placed in large gray areas. Women should have long hair? Well, if the Bible doesn't say anything about it then why "should" I even be bothered by the thought of what I "should" do. If the scripture doesn't say love my brother, or do good to them that hate me, then why "should" I keep to any of those suggestions.

Personal convictions and agendas blur the lines and therefore shut down the whole program.

Chapter and verse may just save this country from the hell it is heading for, we just need to have people be strong enough to preach it.

Lord bless you my friend

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa



www.OnTimeJournal.com

Blessings,
Rhoni

[Rhoni]

I just want to say that I love Jesus.

Blessings, Rhoni

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by philjones

I hope you like me again... I am really sorry about offending you and others with the other post in the other thread!

I never stopped liking you Bro. Jones, I just didn't appreciate your post, lol.

BUt, my brother, if we were all judged eternally by one post, we'd all be banned for life, lol!