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08-04-2008, 02:11 PM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: Help Maple Leaf
Ted finch?
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08-04-2008, 02:18 PM
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Re: Help Maple Leaf
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We are having a discussion on CAF about the second covering teaching and MB said you could give me a history on it's orgins in NB? Would you be so kind to do that thanks in advance.?
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Man,,,sounds like a covert mission......all the initials.....
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08-04-2008, 02:49 PM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: Help Maple Leaf
Many years ago I went with Sister Mary Williams and a group Canada and we were in churches that used head coverings...I think the pastor´s name was Richardson...but it was so long ago...wonder if there is any conection.
I sae some from PR at a church in the states all the ladies had on fancy hats...Odd to use for a veil ...
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08-04-2008, 03:38 PM
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Re: Help Maple Leaf
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What's a "Pentecostal tam?" Does it go with men wearing skirts? |
Nice catch. The Pentecostal Tam was loosely styled after the Scottish Tam O' Shanter.
The Pentecostal Tam was the unofficial second covering of yesteryear.
It was made of eight diagonally shaped pieces of material, joined at the centre with a fabric covered button, and banded on the outer edge with a rigid piece of cardboard and an inch wide elastic.
It was a small price to pay for your place in Heaven.
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08-04-2008, 03:54 PM
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Re: Help Maple Leaf
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Years ago there was a preacher in the South that talked alot about health issues. He spoke on the virtues of drinking fruit and vegetable juices and yes he so happen to have some juicers with him for sell.  |
In the business world we call this "synergy"!
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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08-04-2008, 05:42 PM
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Re: Help Maple Leaf
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Originally Posted by Maple Leaf
My grandmother has been a part of the Oneness movement in NB since it arrived in the early twenties. I’ll ask her about the “second covering” origins when I am next speaking with her.
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I spoke with my grandmother about the second covering teaching in NB, and to the best of her recollection, which is surprisingly good considering that she was baptized in the Holy Ghost in about 1925, hats were pretty universally worn in the New Brunswick churches until the forties, but because it was the style of the day, and not because of a "second covering" conviction.
In her local assembly (Bro. Jacques' church in Fredericton), hats were never taught as a Scriptural conviction, but were worn until the forties, with gloves, to be fashionably dressed for church.
When hats went out of fashion, most of the churches discontinued wearing them, with the notable exception of Bro. Ralston and the Plaster Rock church.
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08-04-2008, 05:57 PM
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Re: Help Maple Leaf
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Pastor
I spoke with my grandmother about the second covering teaching in NB, and to the best of her recollection, which is surprisingly good considering that she was baptized in the Holy Ghost in about 1925, hats were pretty universally worn in the New Brunswick churches until the forties, but because it was the style of the day, and not because of a "second covering" conviction.
In her local assembly (Bro. Jacques' church in Fredericton), hats were never taught as a Scriptural conviction, but were worn until the forties, with gloves, to be fashionably dressed for church.
When hats went out of fashion, most of the churches discontinued wearing them, with the notable exception of Bro. Ralston and the Plaster Rock church.
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When I came to Ohio in 1957 I attended a UPC church in Cincinnati. At that time the ladies wore hats, gloves, and hose to church. A person (adult lady or teen age girl) was not properly dressed without hat, gloves, and hose. That was back in the days of girdles and hose and pantyhose were not around yet.
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08-04-2008, 06:05 PM
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Re: Help Maple Leaf
I thought Passover wine was the juice to drink for your health.
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08-05-2008, 08:27 AM
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Re: Help Maple Leaf
Here's an interesting little tidbit
The message of the hat went from Plaster Rock to Pembroke, Ontario where a pastor named Ralph Reynolds was shown the way more perfectly.
As a result of this light, when the Reynolds' were missionaries to Jamaica the message of the second covering was proclaimed. All because of a layman from Plaster Rock.
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08-05-2008, 09:18 AM
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Re: Help Maple Leaf
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Originally Posted by TrueNorth
Here's an interesting little tidbit
The message of the hat went from Plaster Rock to Pembroke, Ontario where a pastor named Ralph Reynolds was shown the way more perfectly.
As a result of this light, when the Reynolds' were missionaries to Jamaica the message of the second covering was proclaimed. All because of a layman from Plaster Rock.
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To my knowledge the Reynolds still hold to this teaching. Certainly Paul Reynolds in New Westminster does. Last time I was there it was a certifiable "hat parade"! I shouldn't forget about the "cranial napkins" as there were a few veils there also.....
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