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06-02-2008, 11:55 AM
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Re: The Meaninglessness of "I'm Sorry."
While taking the 12 steps of AA and getting sober, I had to make a list of ALL the people I had harmed and be willing to make amends to them....then....go and make those amends except where to do so would harm them or others. NO FUN...and my sponser in AA told me time and time again that I couldnt just go and say Im sorry,,the people to whom I had harmed already knew I was "sorry"! Making amends means setting things straight. Its not easy to do but its very effective...and it sure beats a weak " im sorry ". I had to ask those whom I had harmed..."what can I do to make things right?" That my friends is humbling but freeing!!!!!
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06-02-2008, 12:29 PM
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Re: The Meaninglessness of "I'm Sorry."
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or even better,
"if you didnt say stupid stuff, I wouldnt have to call you an idiot"
who is that?
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 SO R U SAYING I NEED TO BE SORRY?
 
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06-02-2008, 01:27 PM
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Re: The Meaninglessness of "I'm Sorry."
we used to tell our kids sorry just doenst cut the mustard, you still have to pay for your actions, lol
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06-02-2008, 01:29 PM
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Re: The Meaninglessness of "I'm Sorry."
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or even better,
"if you didnt say stupid stuff, I wouldnt have to call you an idiot"
who is that?
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well there you have it, lol,dt 
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06-02-2008, 01:34 PM
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but made himself of no reputation
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Re: The Meaninglessness of "I'm Sorry."
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Bumpety-bump-bump.
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PP, are you able to propose an alternate means to express a lack of interest in continuing to club each other like little baby seals?
I am open to use your phrase if you have an approach that sows peace without making flat, or in some way, non-substantial, apologies.
Hep me out here bro by sharing what you may have in mind.
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08-04-2008, 04:41 PM
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Re: The Meaninglessness of "I'm Sorry."
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Have you ever had someone tell you "I'm sorry" that wasn't? Have you ever had someone say those two words, only to keep doing the very same horrible thing they said they were sorry for?
Sometimes "I'm sorry" just means "forgive me?"
It doesn't really mean that they feel bad for what they did as much as they feel bad they got caught doing wrong.
To me "I'm sorry" should be accompanied by some sort of action greater than just an apology.
The verbal apology should be matched by future acts of contrition.
I don't think any of us believe that repentance only involves words.
Another thing that bugs me is when people hurt other people really, really bad and then make up some line about how they were "just joking."
"Just joking" is cover for "I don't care that I hurt you, and didn't even for a minute consider the implications of my actions and words."
Is it too much to ask that when an apology is made, people should really mean it?
Otherwise just shut up and move on. Your words are meaningless.
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Review time.
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08-04-2008, 05:17 PM
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Re: The Meaninglessness of "I'm Sorry."
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Even worse are the apologies that aren't really even apologies;
"I'm sorry that you feel that way".
If anything ever makes me want to smack a person, it is those words.
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I am sorry that you feel this way.
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08-04-2008, 06:15 PM
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Re: The Meaninglessness of "I'm Sorry."
Yes, yes.... Brother and Amen
To me, I'm sorry means forgive me... God has been so good to forgive me, I am quick to forgive. It has taken a little practice. But it feels so good!
A big sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 
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08-04-2008, 06:22 PM
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Re: The Meaninglessness of "I'm Sorry."
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Originally Posted by revrandy
I don't care whether they are sorry or not....
I just forgive and get on with life...
It's too short to carry a grudge....
Just be kind to everybody...
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AMEN Bro! 
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08-04-2008, 06:30 PM
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Re: The Meaninglessness of "I'm Sorry."
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Another thing that bugs me is when people hurt other people really, really bad and then make up some line about how they were "just joking."
"Just joking" is cover for "I don't care that I hurt you, and didn't even for a minute consider the implications of my actions and words."
Is it too much to ask that when an apology is made, people should really mean it?
Otherwise just shut up and move on. Your words are meaningless.
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All too much of our communication these days is meaningless.
Those cases where somebody is blatantly pushing the limits of decency, but then put their hand up in the air and claim that they didn't mean anything by it, and attempt to imply that the other person / people are being too sensitive, are in my book definitive of the term 'reprobate.' A person without conscience. They are just begging for somebody to get fed up enough to punch them in the mouth and then claim they "didn't mean anything by it."
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