Polygamy in the Bible - Page 31

TK Burk · #**301** 08-06-2008, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

None of them.

It wasn't the bride's house.

I've read historical accounts of this before, maybe T Burk can help me out here. The bridesmaids would light the way to the bride's house for the groom and groomsmen.

So the 5 without lit lamps were not able to participate in the procession to the bride's home, and had to go out and purchase oil for their lamps. By the time they caught up, the wedding was in progress, and the bridesmaids weren't allowed in.

And this?

A Commentary on the Old and New Testaments by Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset and David Brown

shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom — This supplies a key to the parable, whose object is, in the main, the same as that of the last parable - to illustrate the vigilant and expectant attitude of faith, in respect of which believers are described as “they that look for Him” (Heb_9:28), and “love His appearing” (2Ti_4:8). In the last parable it was that of servants waiting for their absent Lord; in this it is that of virgin attendants on a Bride, whose duty it was to go forth at night with lamps, and be ready on the appearance of the Bridegroom to conduct the Bride to his house, and go in with him to the marriage.

Dora · #**302** 08-06-2008, 10:31 PM

If a man were with two women and they lived as if they were married because polygamy is against the law, in your opinion, the only reason their "union" is unacceptable is the fact that our Western culture does not accept the practice of polygamy. Is this conceptually a viable relationship, since it is for all intents and purpose practicing polygamy???

#**303** 08-06-2008, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TK Burk

And this?

A Commentary on the Old and New Testaments by Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset and David Brown

shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom — This supplies a key to the parable, whose object is, in the main, the same as that of the last parable - to illustrate the vigilant and expectant attitude of faith, in respect of which believers are described as “they that look for Him” (Heb_9:28), and “love His appearing” (2Ti_4:8). In the last parable it was that of servants waiting for their absent Lord; in this it is that of virgin attendants on a Bride, whose duty it was to go forth at night with lamps, and be ready on the appearance of the Bridegroom to conduct the Bride to his house, and go in with him to the marriage.

Commentary.. what I love about them is that everyone has them.... opinions

So you believe that he took 5 bridesmaids for the marriage and left five bridesmaids.... wonder if he ever planned to get the actual bride

TK Burk · #**304** 08-06-2008, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

So you are acknowleding that the NT endorsed slavery?

There is a difference between a SLAVE and a SERVANT. A SLAVE had NO RIGHTS. A SERVANT had many rights.

No offense, but you really need to study some more on these issues.

LUKE2447 · #**305** 08-06-2008, 10:32 PM

Since God gave wives to others, God is not doing or guiding us to what is best? I don't see how you can claim God just allowed it in some abstract no interfering way, yet he was clearly involved with it's use.

MissBrattified · #**306** 08-06-2008, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

Come on Ms. Bratti arn't you playing semantics now?

Slavery was allowed by God,,, and whole nations given to Israel as slaves... it was continued into the NT and never condemned......

Look, here's my honest injun opinion, and YES, I am playing semantics:

You know the allowance for divorce based on adultery? In my opinion, the biblical ideal is for a person to FORGIVE their errant spouse and remain with them. BUT, I believe God understands that a person may have the inability to remain in such a relationship and makes allowance for it, since the covenant has been broken. He does not always expect us to live up to His ideals, and even makes rules for how we should handle ourselves when we do not.

I believe polygamy lies outside God's ideal and plan for the home and marriage. I believe the same about slavery. I do not understand why God didn't condemn either practice, and I acknowledge that He did not, but I do not believe either practice falls into line with other commandments given by God in both the OT AND the NT.

TK Burk · #**307** 08-06-2008, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

Commentary.. what I love about them is that everyone has them.... opinions

So you believe that he took 5 bridesmaids for the marriage and left five bridesmaids.... wonder if he ever planned to get the actual bride

Dr. V, it's all about studying. You are making a lot of errors because evidently you have not looked into the context of these verses nor their historical settings.

#**308** 08-06-2008, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dora

If a man were with two women and they lived as if they were married because polygamy is against the law, in your opinion, the only reason their "union" is unacceptable is the fact that our Western culture does not accept the practice of polygamy. Is this conceptually a viable relationship, since it is for all intents and purpose practicing polygamy???

The same idea applies to all gay marriages before now... they were not viable relationships because they were ILLEGAL... now in many states they are legal.. so with the stroke of a pen in a legislative branch in ONE SECOND an "unviable relationship" becomes viable

Now the difference being that gay marriage has never been in ANY SOCIETY in history.. Polygamy has been in EVERY society in History and LEGAL

When it once again becomes legal in this nation.. then all of the persecution against it will stop just like people are beginning to no longer look at two gay men with the stares we did many years ago......

Its all WESTERN mentality....

LUKE2447 · #**309** 08-06-2008, 10:35 PM

Are we not still slaves to Christ as Paul points out? Does he not OWN us? Where we not paid for and had a price?

#**310** 08-06-2008, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TK Burk

There is a difference between a SLAVE and a SERVANT. A SLAVE had NO RIGHTS. A SERVANT had many rights.

No offense, but you really need to study some more on these issues.

One thing I have studied - the word OBEY

and its pretty much the same in Slavery or Servantry.... the Slave was given a home, food, shelter, clothing in return for his work