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Old 08-27-2008, 02:40 PM
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Re: New Testament writer had long hair

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I know this is about James but what about Paul and his N. vow?
I am not for men with long hair but this interests me to know how to give an acceptable answer.
Maybe just maybe there is more to the single verse in Scripture that some think forbids long hair on men. If it is soooo important why is there nothing about it in the OT and in fact several verses that are contradictory to it.
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First of all let me ask YOU this, Who is Hegessipus that we should place any credence in him? He is identified by some as a Greek convert others as a Jewish convert and some have even claimed that he is a heretic that translated Apollonius' manuscripts taken from the Hindus of India into Greek in the second century. One group even claims that Hegessipus intended to replace the worship of Christ as the central figure of Christianity with the worship of Apollonius!

No you will have to do better than that to stir up trouble around here.

I SUGGEST you touch on the subject of lights, fog machines and the veil if you really want to get a rise around here.

Just my opinion, valuable as it is.
He seems to have been a 3rd generation christian most likely. St. Jerome also quotes his writings and seems to have a high opinion about him.

he was most likely a Jewish convert and not a Gentile/Greek convert.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hegesippus_(chronicler)

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07194a.htm

http://www.earlychristianwritings.co...egesippus.html
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Re: New Testament writer had long hair

I am a book worm! I love to study and find things like this very interesting.
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Maybe just maybe there is more to the single verse in Scripture that some think forbids long hair on men. If it is soooo important why is there nothing about it in the OT and in fact several verses that are contradictory to it.
Yup, its worth discussing considering how many folks are turned away by the hair standards.
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I shutter to think of the killing on the altars...
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and for the sake of the UC...I do not cut my hair...
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and for the sake of the UC...I do not cut my hair...
thats why i dont own a TV, just so i can say i don't when among the weaker brethren.
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Well, I said that so the UC´s won´t be out saying Sister Alvear has gone charismatic...

A few times I just posted my thoughts and did not make myself clear and the police run to another board to discuss me...lol...
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Really sad that people enjoy tearing others down. We live in a sick world.
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Really sad that people enjoy tearing others down. We live in a sick world.
yup. but its always tough when debating religion, politics, and a few other topics to not get personal. i see it from both sides. conservatives see those who are similar but different enough to be a real threat... therefore you must magnify the differences to seperate the "wolves from the sheep" in their frame of mind.

liberals who lose a belief in the sanctification process or their respect for scripture usually drift off into soem variant of universal salvation or extra-biblical heresy. each side has its weaknesses if the person who holds the position doesn't see the end of the road of their direction if gone too far.

i have good friends who are cons and good friends who are liberals (within the context of the apostolic movement.. which is actually still pretty darn conservative overall). its really the person who makes it work or not, not necessarly their philosophical starting point on a given issue. i've actually gotten more conservative on some things lately like the issue of pastoral/spiritual authority (within reason) while getting more progressive on other things that are extra-biblical or debatable at best.

i have noticed in the last year that the cons quit fairly easily when they get outflanked and don't maintain good counter arguements very often, and they rarely use any scholarly works or solid exegesis of scriptures when making their points. they also make it personal way more often. the only time as far as i know i've ever gotten personal was one time when i called someone a false teacher on the hair issue, and i accepted that i went over the line on that one on a online forum since it was a pretty hard hit. but for the most part what we discuss on here really isn't heaven and hell.. its just cultural and personal convictions expressed to a larger crowd as "the rules"
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