God's name

[shag]

Very similiar to opening comment, if in study time or conversation, my child were to ask the name of who was speaking: (no he hasn't asked yet, but I would not be surpised to hear it sometime)

When Jesus heard the voice say "This is my Son in whom I am well pleased....",

Is "Jesus" the correct response since he is God?

Or would I have to go into explanation of God being manifest, or Emanuel God with us etc.?

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by shag

Very similiar to opening comment, if in study time or conversation, my child were to ask the name of who was speaking: (no he hasn't asked yet, but I would not be surpised to hear it sometime)

When Jesus heard the voice say "This is my Son in whom I am well pleased....",

Is "Jesus" the correct response since he is God?

Or would I have to go into explanation of God being manifest, or Emanuel God with us etc.?

I would say that was God the Father (Yahweh/Jehovah), or God as he existed/exists outside, and apart from, the incarnation of Jesus Christ.

Yes, I do believe children need to know the basic concept of the incarnation. While God was in Christ, he continued to exist beyond the child that was born, as God the Father. New Testament literature is much more sensical (even to children) when acknowledgement is given to the distinctions between the Father and Son.

[Pastor DTSalaz]

Originally Posted by cneasttx

Isaiah 9:6

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

That is what his Name is called

These are descriptions of who he is.

[Pastor DTSalaz]

I had a pastor whose name was Jesus Varela. A good friend whose name was Jesus Raygoza. In spanish Jesus is generally used but when it is used in english they usually liked to be called Jesse. Several other acquaintances whose names were Jesus as well.

When I baptize how do people know which Name I am baptizing in?

[Pastor DTSalaz]

A few different names and their meanings.

1440 Joshua a savior; a deliverer
1376 Jesus savior; deliverer

1323 Jehoshua same as Joshua

Old Testament Names In Hebrew (Aramaic)

EL: God ("mighty, strong, prominent")
ELOHIM: God (a plural noun, more than two, used with singular verbs

In combination with action
EL SHADDAI: God Almighty or "God All Sufficient."

ADONAI: Lord in our English Bibles (Capitol letter 'L ', lower case, 'ord') (Adonai is plural, the sing. is "adon"). "Master'' or "Lord"

JEHOVAH: LORD in our English Bibles (all capitals). Yahweh is the covenant name of God. The name of God, too sacred to be uttered, abbreviated ( . . . . ) or written "YHWH" without vowel points. The tetragrammaton.
JEHOVAH-JIREH: "The Lord will Provide." Gen. 22:14.
JEHOVAH-ROPHE: "The Lord Who Heals" Ex. 15:22-26
JEHOVAH-NISSI: "The Lord Our Banner." Ex. 17:15.
JEHOVAH-M'KADDESH: "The Lord Who Sanctifies" Lev. 20:8
JEHOVAH-SHALOM: "The Lord Our Peace" Judges 6:24

SHEPHERD: Psa. 23
JUDGE: Psa. 7:8
JEHOVAH ELOHIM: "LORD God" Gen. 2:4
JEHOVAH-TSIDKENU "The Lord Our Righteousness" Jer. 23:5
JEHOVAH-ROHI: "The Lord Our Shepherd" Psa. 23,
JEHOVAH-SHAMMAH: "The Lord is There" (Ezek. 48:35).
JEHOVAH-SABAOTH: "The Lord of Hosts"

EL ELYON: 'Most High" (from "to go up") Deut. 26:19
ABHIR: 'Mighty One', ("to be strong") Gen. 49:24
BRANCH: (tsemach), The Branch: Zech. 3:8
KADOSH: "Holy One" Psa. 71:22
SHAPHAT: "Judge" Gen. 18:25
EL ROI: "God of Seeing" Hagar in Gen. 16:13
KANNA: "Jealous" (zealous). Ex. 20:5,
PALET: "Deliverer" Psa. 18:2.
YESHUA: (Yeshua) "Savior" ("he will save"). Isa. 43:3
GAOL: "Redeemer" (to buy back by paying a price). Job 19:25
MAGEN: "Shield" Psa. 3:3
STONE: Gen. 49:24
EYALUTH: "Strength" Psa. 22:19.
TSADDIQ: "Righteous One" Psa. 7:9.
EL-OLAM: "Everlasting God" (God of everlasting time) Gen. 21:33
EL-BERITH: "God of the Covenant" Used of Baal in Judges 9:46. Probably used originally to refer to the God of israel.
EL-GIBHOR: Mighty God (Isa. 9:6)
ZUR: "God our Rock" Deut. 32:18
Malachi calls Messiah "The Sun of Righteousness" (Malachi 4:2).
'Attiq Yomin (Aramaic): "Ancient of Days," Dan. 7:9, 13, 22.
MELEKH: "King" Psa. 5:2,

"The Angel of the Lord: " Gen. 16:7ff, 21:17
FATHER: 2 Sam. 7:14-15; Psa. 68:5; Isa. 63:16, 64:8; Mal. 1:6.
THE FIRST AND LAST: Isa. 44:6, 48:12.

New Testament Greek Names for God

KURIOS: (kurios) "Lord" Found some 600 times in the NT.
DESPOTES: (despotes) "Lord" 5 times: Lu. 2:29; Acts 4:24; 2 Pet. 2:1; Jude 4; Rev. 6:10.
THEOS: (yeos) "God" (equivalent to the Hebrew Elohim), 1,000 times in the NT.
I AM: Jesus upset his generation especially when He said, "Before Abraham was, I AM," John 8:58. Note also his claim to be Jehovah in such phrases as "I AM the Light of the world," "the bread of life," living water," "the Resurrection and the Life," "the Way, Truth and the Life" in John's Gospel. From the Hebrew OT verb "to be" signifying a Living, Intelligent, Personal Being.
THEOTES: "Godhead" Col. 2:9; Rom. 1:20.
HUPSISTOS: "Highest" Mt. 21:9.
SOTER: (soter) "Savior" Luke 1:4 7.
WORD: (logos) John 1:1ff
ALMIGHTY: (pantokrator) 2 Cor. 6:18, Revelation, 9t, e.g. 19:6.

New Testamnet Greek Names for Jesus

JESUS: Derived from the Hebrew "Joshua" (Y'shua) or "Je-Hoshua" meaning JEHOVAH IS SALVATION.
CHRIST: is equivalent to the Hebrew 'Messiah' (Meshiach), "The Anointed One."
LOGOS: "The Word of God" John l; Rev. 19:13.
SOPHIA: "The Wisdom of God," referring to Christ, refers back to Proverbs (I Cor. 1,2)
ALPHA AND OMEGA: The First and the Last, The Beginning and The End (Rev. 1).

These are what Gods name was, depending on how he related to Man.
His Main covenant name Was revealed in Ex. 3

Due to progressive revelation we now know God through Jesus. His highest revelation. It is solely this Name in which we now find salvation. I still find comfort and solace in using his other revealed names for this is how he relates to us in crisis & provision.

Be blessed
Pastor Daniel T Salaz

[Pastor DTSalaz]

It is not solely the Name itself that saves. It is the object behind the name. When someone came as an ambassador of a king they used the Name of the King and everyone knew the authority that name held. When we use the name Jesus we relate it to the authority behind that name. He is the Christ. We might also say the Lord Jesus Christ, which is God Jesus the messiah. Everyone will know which name we are referring to.

I do not baptize in the name of chuey. Nickname for Jesus in spanish. He can't save anybody.

Everybody knew that the name Joshua in Hebrew didn't save. The Name Jesus, the equivalent in Greek, didn't save. It was until Jesus came and revealed who he was representing that the name held any power. After this whenever the name was used, it was the authority behind that name that now is able to save.

Be blessed
Pastor Daniel T Salaz
Fountain of Truth Apostolic Church

[Pastor DTSalaz]

Originally Posted by shag

Very similiar to opening comment, if in study time or conversation, my child were to ask the name of who was speaking: (no he hasn't asked yet, but I would not be surpised to hear it sometime)

When Jesus heard the voice say "This is my Son in whom I am well pleased....",

Is "Jesus" the correct response since he is God?

Or would I have to go into explanation of God being manifest, or Emanuel God with us etc.?

It was God as the Father. He was known as father for he originated all things. He also originated Jesus. His only begotten. Directly from himself. He was not made like Adam Fashioned from the dust of the earth.

This is when;

sa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

He was fully man as a child was born from Mary, and a Son was Given from God. God added to himself the seed that was in Mary. As the son of Mary he was called the Son of Man. As the from God he is called The Son of God.

Be Blesssed
Pastor DT Salaz

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by shag

Very similiar to opening comment, if in study time or conversation, my child were to ask the name of who was speaking: (no he hasn't asked yet, but I would not be surpised to hear it sometime)

When Jesus heard the voice say "This is my Son in whom I am well pleased....",

Is "Jesus" the correct response since he is God?

Or would I have to go into explanation of God being manifest, or Emanuel God with us etc.?

Id go with Yahweh :-)

However Jesus is the salvational/authoritative name of God in my opinion.

Jesus is Immanuel, which in the greek is THE God with US. Jesus is the name of God in flesh. God had many OT names and often they were combinations to represent a relationship to Israel

Yahweh Yirah He will be our Provider
Yahweh Tsidkenu He will be our Righteousness
Yahweh Rapha He will be our healer
etc etc

Considering the rule of Jesus in the NT The name sums up all of God's qualities and relationships in the OT to us. He is our righteousness. He is our healer. God shall provide all your needs by Christ Jesus.

Savior, in the OT, was not really about sin. It was about deliverance...out of all your problems

So not only was he Jesus, he shall save them from all your sins
He was the lamb of God who bore his back to the smitters, by HIS stripes we are healed.

Jesus is sort of a covenant name I guess you can say, while Yahweh is the memoral name of God for all generations, Jesus is His salvational name...Yahweh is salvation or Yehoshua..Jesus from Yeshua is the shortened of Yehoshua...
not sure why there is a difference in Yah and Yeh, but perhaps it has to do with the influence of aramaic

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Pastor DTSalaz

I had a pastor whose name was Jesus Varela. A good friend whose name was Jesus Raygoza. In spanish Jesus is generally used but when it is used in english they usually liked to be called Jesse. Several other acquaintances whose names were Jesus as well.

When I baptize how do people know which Name I am baptizing in?

You don't have to say their names or you can just call them bro _____

[ManOfWord]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

Does anyone really believe that?

It just happens to be true.

Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge

I assume he means its ok to say Jesus in a different language.

Of course it is.

Originally Posted by mizpeh

That's what I'm assuming as well.

What is wrong with that?

If you're in Greece, pronouncing Jesus the way the Greeks do is fine. Of in Israel, pronounce it Jesus the way the Jews would.

What is the big deal and who teaches the name, Jesus, has to be spoken as Jesus no matter where you are in the world?

My point is that the Greek form "Jesus" most certainly was NOT pronounced over a convert in the waters of baptism. It was more than likely, Yashua or Yeshua or Yehoshua, which was spoken by the angel.

Once again, I am NOT advocating we use those names and I ALWAYS use the name of Jesus when I am baptizing. I am only making a point from the historical record and putting things into perspective. I have read articles from those who say we must return to using the exact rendering of Jesus' Aramaic or Hebrew name and don't agree with them.

We know who we are referring to and so does God. However, does anyone here really believe that the Greek rendering of Jesus was used during Jesus' day?