This is pure HERESY!

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

He who has the gold, gets to do the heresy...

Heresy or not heresy? That is the question!

[Steve Epley]

Yes God closed the door and that was on those who had not obeyed Noah's preaching NOT a great mystery here? Are we having fun yet???

[SDG]

Originally Posted by ChTatum

Don't use the ignore button, call their hand.

The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

You're not implying they're EVIL ... are you???

[ThePastorsCoach]

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

I believe that anything that is assigned a soteriological significance (a MUST for salvation) that God's word does not clearly and specifically state so, is a HERETICAL doctrine and could be therefore worthy of damnation.

I think it is fine to declare to people that certain things may be damaging to their relationship with the Lord.

But to state that because the pastor declares something that should either be done or refrained from, and then declare that because someone in their church doesn't follow the pastor's directive, and is therefore disobedient, and therfore rebellious, and therefore in witchcraft, and therefore headed to STRAIGHT to hell, is nothing short of popery.

There is nothing greater on this earth than the salvation God Himself purchased with His own blood!!! To MESS with that, IMO, is to take the role of God Himself upon oneself.

I think that is dangerous territory to tread upon. Call me liberal. Call me a compromiser. Call me loosey goosey or whatever it is you want to call me, but I ain't messin' with salvation.

Happy Easter!!!!

I second the motion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

I believe that anything that is assigned a soteriological significance (a MUST for salvation) that God's word does not clearly and specifically state so, is a HERETICAL doctrine and could be therefore worthy of damnation.

I think it is fine to declare to people that certain things may be damaging to their relationship with the Lord.

But to state that because the pastor declares something that should either be done or refrained from, and then declare that because someone in their church doesn't follow the pastor's directive, and is therefore disobedient, and therfore rebellious, and therefore in witchcraft, and therefore headed to STRAIGHT to hell, is nothing short of popery.

There is nothing greater on this earth than the salvation God Himself purchased with His own blood!!! To MESS with that, IMO, is to take the role of God Himself upon oneself.

I think that is dangerous territory to tread upon. Call me liberal. Call me a compromiser. Call me loosey goosey or whatever it is you want to call me, but I ain't messin' with salvation.

Happy Easter!!!!

Couldn't said it better myself MOW.....well I could of...but since you said it allready, I'll just say Amen. I know this will shock my ultra conservative friends here.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

I second the motion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I say I am shocked???????????????????????????

[Old Paths]

2 Tim 2:16-18

16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;

18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
KJV


This is why preterism is evil and will cause someone to be lost.

[OneAccord]

Amen to the MOW. I had a pastor who said the Lord REVEALED to him that eating pork was a SIN. He said this was revealed to him by the Holy Ghost and he directed us young preachers to stop eating pork and to adopt his revelation into our preaching. I tried. I really did. But, the call of bacon, pork chops and saugage was more than I could handle. But, I told him that I could not preach this until He gave me some New Testament scripture that forbids the eating of pork. I was promptly labelled rebellious and was "sat" down.

Scripture. Whatever is preached...must be founded squarely on Scripture. Not a manual...or on the pastors personal perference or conviction. It must be based on the Word.

By the way...our pastor didn't recieve this revelation. He was trying to woo some supporters who did not eat pork.

A pastor... or evangelist..or even a church member who claims his convictions and/or revelations are equal to the Bible and must be adherred to is a danger.

Originally Posted by OneAccord

Amen to the MOW. I had a pastor who said the Lord REVEALED to him that eating pork was a SIN. He said this was revealed to him by the Holy Ghost and he directed us young preachers to stop eating pork and to adopt his revelation into our preaching. I tried. I really did. But, the call of bacon, pork chops and saugage was more than I could handle. But, I told him that I could not preach this until He gave me some New Testament scripture that forbids the eating of pork. I was promptly labelled rebellious and was "sat" down.

Scripture. Whatever is preached...must be founded squarely on Scripture. Not a manual...or on the pastors personal perference or conviction. It must be based on the Word.

By the way...our pastor didn't recieve this revelation. He was trying to woo some supporters who did not eat pork.

A pastor... or evangelist..or even a church member who claims his convictions and/or revelations are equal to the Bible and must be adherred to is a danger.

Good post and I agree~ By the way I don't eat pig...EVER!

[ILG]

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

I believe that anything that is assigned a soteriological significance (a MUST for salvation) that God's word does not clearly and specifically state so, is a HERETICAL doctrine and could be therefore worthy of damnation.

I think it is fine to declare to people that certain things may be damaging to their relationship with the Lord.

But to state that because the pastor declares something that should either be done or refrained from, and then declare that because someone in their church doesn't follow the pastor's directive, and is therefore disobedient, and therfore rebellious, and therefore in witchcraft, and therefore headed to STRAIGHT to hell, is nothing short of popery.

There is nothing greater on this earth than the salvation God Himself purchased with His own blood!!! To MESS with that, IMO, is to take the role of God Himself upon oneself.

I think that is dangerous territory to tread upon. Call me liberal. Call me a compromiser. Call me loosey goosey or whatever it is you want to call me, but I ain't messin' with salvation.

Happy Easter!!!!

WooHoo! You go MOW!