for that awkward speech to the GOP convention in September. A blind man could have seen this coming. If you chair committee's as a Democrat it's probably not the best idea to go bad mouth the party's nominee. Looks like he gambled and lost.
Mike, Joe Lieberman is an Independent who caucused with the Dems. The party gambled in 2006 and threw their support behind his opponent in the primaries that year. So he ran as an independent and beat the guy and the party who betrayed him. The Dems needed him to caucas with them because it would give them their only chance at a 51-49 advantage.
Now mums been the word until the Dems realized that they would not get their 60 vote supermajority, therefore not needing Lieberman. So Joe is expendable (what is it with the Dems and their hatred for Joes?).
I guess the Messiah's speech on election night about a change in the petty immature politics of the past was just rhetoric huh? These guys are not about change. We're going to get more of the same, only the names will have changed.
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I guess the Messiah's speech on election night about a change in the petty immature politics of the past was just rhetoric huh? These guys are not about change. We're going to get more of the same, only the names will have changed.
Please. This has nothing to do with working with people on both sides of the aisle. Until he proves otherwise, I'll take Obama at his word that he's willing to work with people across party lines on issues where they can find common ground and it's good for the country. This has to do with making sure all of the people in their party actually support their party.
That has absolutely zero to do with allowing a member of your own party to chair congressional committees while continually publicly trashing the party and it's nominee. I'm sure they'll be glad to work with Lieberman on issues he can help on, but you and I both know that neither political party would allow his shenanigans to go on and allow him party leadership.
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for that awkward speech to the GOP convention in September. A blind man could have seen this coming. If you chair committee's as a Democrat it's probably not the best idea to go bad mouth the party's nominee. Looks like he gambled and lost.
Please. This has nothing to do with working with people on both sides of the aisle. Until he proves otherwise, I'll take Obama at his word that he's willing to work with people across party lines on issues where they can find common ground and it's good for the country. This has to do with making sure all of the people in their party actually support their party.
That has absolutely zero to do with allowing a member of your own party to chair congressional committees while continually publicly trashing the party and it's nominee. I'm sure they'll be glad to work with Lieberman on issues he can help on, but you and I both know that neither political party would allow his shenanigans to go on and allow him party leadership.
Which words are we going to believe from Obama? Reaching across party lines to a democrat means allowing you to join their cause. It is never to give up a little (to compromise) towards a more reasonable position. They had already done all they could to Joe, by trying to throw him out of his senate seat, because they needed him he was given a position. He could have campaigned for Obama and the leftist Senators who hate Joe would have still taken everything they could from him.
I am not a Lieberman fan on most of his politics but I think he is one of the most trust worthy men in the senate on either side of the aisle. He does what he believes is right regardless of what the public or his party thinks.
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Please. This has nothing to do with working with people on both sides of the aisle. Until he proves otherwise, I'll take Obama at his word that he's willing to work with people across party lines on issues where they can find common ground and it's good for the country. This has to do with making sure all of the people in their party actually support their party.
That has absolutely zero to do with allowing a member of your own party to chair congressional committees while continually publicly trashing the party and it's nominee. I'm sure they'll be glad to work with Lieberman on issues he can help on, but you and I both know that neither political party would allow his shenanigans to go on and allow him party leadership.
Joe is not a member of their party. He's Independent. They threw him under the bus. He mde them pay. They were fortunate that he was willing to caucus with them to give them a majority. He has every right to be Independent. They needed him to get a slim majority. He needed them to have a chairmanship.
Obama is the head of the party now. Not Reid, not Pelosi. As soon as BO heard word about what the Dems thought to do to JL HE COULD'VE PICKED UP THE PHONE AND SAY (sorry, got stuck on caps---I'm typing this on my phone, too time consuming to correct it), BO could pick up the phone and simpl tell them, "Revenge is old politics, I promised America Tuesday that petty immature politcs is over."
I think keeping a campaign promise is more important than getting even.
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
Joe is not a member of their party. He's Independent. They threw him under the bus. He mde them pay. They were fortunate that he was willing to caucus with them to give them a majority. He has every right to be Independent. They needed him to get a slim majority. He needed them to have a chairmanship.
Obama is the head of the party now. Not Reid, not Pelosi. As soon as BO heard word about what the Dems thought to do to JL HE COULD'VE PICKED UP THE PHONE AND SAY (sorry, got stuck on caps---I'm typing this on my phone, too time consuming to correct it), BO could pick up the phone and simpl tell them, "Revenge is old politics, I promised America Tuesday that petty immature politcs is over."
I think keeping a campaign promise is more important than getting even.
You sound as dingy as Sara. The President has nothing to do with who chairs what committee. The senate Dem's gave Joe a chair position and it will be the senate Dem's who take it away from the traitor if they choose to. Joe is as phony as a $3 bill.
You sound as dingy as Sara. The President has nothing to do with who chairs what committee. The senate Dem's gave Joe a chair position and it will be the senate Dem's who take it away from the traitor if they choose to. Joe is as phony as a $3 bill.
Well, I bet Sarah knows that "dingy" is pronounced "din-jee" and means dark or dirty like a "dingy, old t-shirt". Trying to insult someone's intelligence is more effective if you know the meaning of the words you are using and how to spell a woman's name that has been plastered all over America for the past two months.
President-elect Obama is the HEAD of the party. That means he sets the tone and direction of his fellow Democrats. He promised a change in politics, a change in Washington, and handling Lieberman in a forgiving way would show how quickly he has assumed control of Washington and would show how quick he can deliver on the promise to change the partisanship.
Phony is a party that betrays a guy during the primaries in 2006, forcing him to go Independent, approaches him hat in hand when they need him for a one vote majority, and then when he is expendable they want to take revenge for his support of the Republican candidate. He was complimentary of BO but simply said his support of McCain had to do with his expereince. Joe is an avid Israel supporter and believes like McCain that this war on terror is tantamount.
Joe is no longer a Democrat. He is an Independent not of his choosing but because of his party that betrayed him. If he were a Democrat and openly supported Mac, your position would make sense. And if Obama had not claimed that Democrats were going to bring change to partisan and get even politcs, it would make sense. I am just pointing out that BO could really prove to alot of us who are skeptical that he means what he says by using his powers of persuasion and his magnetic aura to get Reid to follow his rhetoric and put their actions where the party leader's mouth is.
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
Well, I bet Sarah knows that "dingy" is pronounced "din-jee" and means dark or dirty like a "dingy, old t-shirt". Trying to insult someone's intelligence is more effective if you know the meaning of the words you are using and how to spell a woman's name that has been plastered all over America for the past two months.
Thank you for your lesson on spelling oh mighty one.
I'm in the beautiful Ozarks sitting around a camp fire enjoying the start of Deer Camp 2008. I decided to take a break from my pursuit of the "big one" just to add something I read last nightm
When Lieberman was in deep trouble in 06 in the Dem primary, Lieberman begged Obama to come help him fundraise Obama went and gave a rousing speech of support for him when the other Dem's wouldn't because of his stand on Iraq.
I wouldn't be surprised if Obama feels he was stabbed in the back.
By the way wish me luck on the hunt tomorrow.
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The President has nothing to do with who chairs what committee. The senate Dem's gave Joe a chair position and it will be the senate Dem's who take it away from the traitor if they choose to. Joe is as phony as a $3 bill.
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