Shame On You Christians..gays riot

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Berkeley

I'm glad apostolics weren't there praying.

I can hear it now....
"You fags are going to hell!"
"You need to be born again"
"Then the ex lesbians need to wear skirts"

etc etc

[HappyTown]

Originally Posted by Berkeley

I'm glad apostolics weren't there praying.

I can hear it now....
"You fags are going to hell!"
"You need to be born again"
"Then the ex lesbians need to wear skirts"

etc etc

sad but true!!!

[HappyTown]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

The gays were chanting that...that does not mean they were Mormons.

But they could be!

[HappyTown]

Originally Posted by Charnock

Does anyone else find the username "HappyTown" ironically hilarious?

I don't think I've seen one post from that poster that would qualify as happy.

I'm very happy!!! I just don't suffer from homophobia, like some some do....

[Arphaxad]

"I think it was stupid, they are lucky they were only called names told to go! On the tape if you listen real close toward the end you can hear one person saying F$## Fags! "
HT

And if you listen real real close it was one of the gays saying "#$%^&* PIGS." He was shouting at the cops.

ARPH

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Prax, you're being deliberately obtuse for the sake of arguing the point. Do you really think they didn't deliberately choose that area BECAUSE of the gay presence? Because they felt that place probably needed prayer more than all the other places they could have gathered?

Obtuse? Excuse me but Christians target drunks. Christians target druggies...Christians target SINNERS...are YOU saying the only sinners we should not target are gays?

There is a major difference between being a witness and getting in people's faces about abortion and homosexuality in a demonstration/protest type setting

They were NOT in anyones face. Please, are you playing obtuse now? Did you read the article or not? They had good reactions UP UNTIL some roudy gays came out of a bar and made them a target. They held no signs. They were not preaching. They were praying and singing songs and had some results!

I have seen some abortion rallies that were far from peaceful--OR Christian. I would have been ashamed to be part of them. Not because they were Christians, or because they were standing up for what they believed, but because they were NOT acting like Christians.

AGain....did you read the article? They were NOT standing in front of the gay bars with signs...they were not preaching...they did not have loud speakers chanting "Gays are going to hell"...they were not in front of the bars...they were in the same area...where they had been many times before, praying and singing songs....I ask again, which group of sinners should we reach? Just non-gays? Even if one thought nothing wrong with being gay, even a gay christian might expect there to be sinners in their midst that need Jesus.

I don't believe we should hide in dark caves or be afraid to pray in public. I doubt if anyone else on this thread believes that either. I DO think that many people today are trying to see great moves of God without being full of POWER first. Remember when the disciples tried to cast out a demon and they couldn't? What did Jesus tell them? Some things only come through fasting and prayer. BEFORE you get into the situation.

That is all beside the point now. Are you assuming these people did not pray and fast? Hellow but the issue WAS...the one I responded to...is that we are NOT JUST to pray and fast, which is what was being suggested. I don't know what makes you think you needed to take me on here, but you are way off base.

I'm not calling those Christians evil. From the video it doesn't look they were holding a protest. The homosexuals were clearly exhibiting evil, godless, disrespectful behaviors. I'm sure that type of behavior will increase exponentially, especially when unchecked by law enforcement. However, I'm just saying that Christians should NOT engage in political protests or civil matters and slap a spirituality label on it, then expect God to pour out His blessings on their efforts. It's just not quite the right methodology.

I don't know what YOU are referring to but what I am referring to is what THOSE gays were doing...SHAME ON YOU...Yes shame on the Christian for standing on the sidewalk and praying and singing songs. Those gays are calling the Christians evil for doing their good....and it seems some here are casting doubts on those Christians too...I didn't say you did.

One of the things I can't stand is when a person uses the nobility argument to whitewash what they've done, and wipe out any objections. Example: "I know I didn't do my job today, but that's because I was reading my Bible for two hours, and I had to finish the book of Romans before I went back to work."

Uh....ok...now you are in agreement with me....hmmmm

Either you'd better be led of God and prepared to be fired for obeying Him, or you'd better submit to your employer and quit using spiritual labels for stupid behavior.

Im not getting your point....you started off attacking me, end up sounding like you are in agreement and now I just don't get what you are doing...bored?

I'm not calling this group one way or the other. There aren't enough details. I'm just saying that we SHOULD obey God rather than men, we SHOULD be witnesses, but when we are witnesses, it had better be in the spirit of Christ, of the miraculous and with a large measure of the fruits of the spirit, or it doesn't have anything to do with God.

Call them whatever you want. I don't care. I take acception though with the idea we should not try to reach out to all sinners, including Homosexuals and that we should just hide in caves and pray instead.

I don't remember Christ rebuking sinners. He rebuked hypocrites. He offered salvation and healing to sinners.

So? What does THAT have to do with the topic? Again these guys were not rebuking anyone......sigh

Sinners need a physician. They don't need a group of pharisees dragging them before God like the woman caught in adultery, asking Him to dole out the appropriate judgment. Christians should be careful with that kind of behavior, because they'll find themselves walking away in shame.

More confusion...what does THAT have to do with this group? You know they were pharisees? When and where did they drag anyone anywhere? WHo is dragging sinners here? Please I have no idea what you are trying to accomplish here

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

Whatever their intentions may have been... considering how tense the situation has been since the Prop 8 vote, it probably wasnt a good idea for a group of Christians to go into a predominantly gay district to "pray" as a group like that.

A move like that was just unnecessarily inflammatory, and probably just not a wise thing to do, considering the circumstances.

Their intention.....Im sure it was to reach out to sinners. According to what was read they were just praying and singing songs...something they do regularly.

[Arphaxad]

Gosh. Prax, don't you know we have to be PC Christians. Get with it man, this is the 21st century, not the 1st century.

ARPH

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Arphaxad

Gosh. Prax, don't you know we have to be PC Christians. Get with it man, this is the 21st century, not the 1st century.

ARPH

I think Christians have been beaten by PC and peer pressure. They are afraid to be called "racists"...they are afraid to be called "Homophobic"...they are afraid to be called "hate mongers" and "Militant" all for what? Reaching the lost. No, not holding signs and sneering epithets at others, but standing up for truth and against sin and telling the world the hard truth. Sin is still sin and all sinners will have their part in the lake of fire. It can be told in love...if you never watched "The Way of the Master" you should.

They even have an episode where they go to a "gay" area and see if they do it in love. Yet they use the word to bring about conviction and knowledge of sin to their conscious minds.

[Praxeas]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDgKxbL2jq4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJbl1...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPZ_Y...eature=related