May I smoke here??!

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Ferd

It simply amazes me that one can find a valid excuse for a sinful behavior by suggesting that some other behavior is just as sinful.

Smoking damages a body and is very addictive and unless one smokes in a vacuum sealed chamber, smoking hurts those around you.

If you want to have a discussion about over eating, then fine. We have done that many times. Its a worthy discussion.

You want to talk about the evil of pork, great, we have done that too and it is a worthy discussion.

You want to talk about the evils of caffeine great! We have discussed that more than once too....


But PLEASE people, none of those things is an excuse for lighting up and ingesting tobacco into your lungs. Smoking damages the body. period. end of discussion. it damages the body very clearly, it kills people, it harms those around the smoker, and it has an addictive nature that keeps you coming back for more.


One cannot smoke in moderation and not damage your body. One cannot smoke on occasion for recreation and not damage your body.

No amount of bacon or fried chicken or chicken fried in bacon grease undoes the simple fact that smoking DAMAGES the body!

Doing willfull damage to the Temple of God is a SIN.

If you are attempting to justify smoking using ANY argument at all, you are attempting to justify sin. period.



Some complain that AFF has become "Post-Apostolic". This thread makes me wonder if we have "Apostolics" that have really become Post-Christian.

Then Cigars are OK?

[aak1972]

Originally Posted by Ferd

right. your arent trying to justify smoking.


and its a balmy day here in Dallas.


Smokers arent being picked on. they are struggling with sin. And if they dont find victory, thier struggle will likely kill them.

OK one more time I am not tryin to justify smoking!!! I dont have to I dont smoke!!! Just wanna know the difference between smoking and drinking 12 cokes a day.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Neck

It's not a matter of aceepting smoking. It is a matter of logic and why some things are singled out and others are not touched because they are accepted...

No its a matter of justyifing sin because you see someone else sinning.

like I said, if you want to talk about glutony fine we have done that before and its a worthy discussion.

but dont sit here and give a pass to smoking (which will kill you) because some preacher somewhere ate too much fried chicken.



Dont tell a poor smoker that they are being picked on when in fact, they are killing themselves and harming those they smoke around.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Ferd

right. your arent trying to justify smoking.


and its a balmy day here in Dallas.


Smokers arent being picked on. they are struggling with sin. And if they dont find victory, thier struggle will likely kill them.

I understand what he's saying...........why aren't we struggling with overeating as a sin? Why isn't it preached as a sin?

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

I understand what he's saying...........why aren't we struggling with overeating as a sin? Why isn't it preached as a sin?

Because we like to do it so very often.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by aak1972

OK one more time I am not tryin to justify smoking!!! I dont have to I dont smoke!!! Just wanna know the difference between smoking and drinking 12 cokes a day.

if you need someone to tell you the difference, then you have far greater issues my friend. (and dont confuse that staement with me justifying drinking a dozen cokes either)

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

I understand what he's saying...........why aren't we struggling with overeating as a sin? Why isn't it preached as a sin?

Renda the vast majority of "christians" now believe that preaching against anything is just being mean and controling.

in fact you look at the posts around here and you will fine more people who think we shouldnt tell folk about sin anyway.

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Ferd

No its a matter of justyifing sin because you see someone else sinning.

like I said, if you want to talk about glutony fine we have done that before and its a worthy discussion.

but dont sit here and give a pass to smoking (which will kill you) because some preacher somewhere ate too much fried chicken.



Dont tell a poor smoker that they are being picked on when in fact, they are killing themselves and harming those they smoke around.

I disagree with smoking and hate it when I smell it in a public place.

Just come up with a better argument than the one most Christians give...

[aak1972]

Originally Posted by Ferd

if you need someone to tell you the difference, then you have far greater issues my friend. (and dont confuse that staement with me justifying drinking a dozen cokes either)

Well I will take it that you do not have the ability to expain to me the difference!!! Is the health issues or the addictive issues?? Please tell me! I think it is a sin to smoke! I just wanna know why the other things mentioned that are detrimental to your health not preached as a sin. When the last time you heard someone preach against phenylalanine?

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Ferd

Renda the vast majority of "christians" now believe that preaching against anything is just being mean and controling.

in fact you look at the posts around here and you will fine more people who think we shouldnt tell folk about sin anyway.

So you don't want that box of fine cuban cigars I sent you for the gift exchange?