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01-21-2009, 07:37 AM
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Re: I shocked at the White remark in Lowery's pray
The eccumenical malarkey that he included was nice too: seeking God in your churches, your temples, and your mosques....
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01-21-2009, 08:19 AM
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the ultracon
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Re: I shocked at the White remark in Lowery's pray
WoW, I just googles for Rev Lowrey's prayer text and this IS a hot topic of debate today.
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We go now to walk together, children, pledging that we won't get weary in the difficult days ahead. We know you will not leave us alone, with your hands of power and your heart of love.
Help us then, now, Lord, to work for that day when nation shall not lift up sword against nation, when tanks will be beaten into tractors, when every man and every woman shall sit under his or her own vine and fig tree, and none shall be afraid; when justice will roll down like waters and righteousness as a mighty stream.
Lord, in the memory of all the saints who from their labors rest, and in the joy of a new beginning, we ask you to help us work for that day when black will not be asked to get back, when brown can stick around -- (laughter) -- when yellow will be mellow -- (laughter) -- when the red man can get ahead, man -- (laughter) -- and when white will embrace what is right.
Let all those who do justice and love mercy say amen.
AUDIENCE: Amen!
REV. LOWERY: Say amen --
AUDIENCE: Amen!
REV. LOWERY: -- and amen.
AUDIENCE: Amen! (Cheers, applause.)
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Mabe he could have chosn other words for his rhym. He was alluding to recent racial paste. Not slavey, but the black south that HE well remembers.
I think we have all come a mighty long way from those days, but not all of us.
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01-21-2009, 08:30 AM
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Re: I shocked at the White remark in Lowery's pray
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Originally Posted by deacon blues
Lowery is an old lion of the civil rights movement. He is a part of a different generation of African-Americans. Obama is not a part of that generation nor did his parents experience the injustices of the racism that existed in Lowery's generation.
People like Lowery, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, et al fought hard to get America and race relations to this point. Not always doing it in the right way, they did represent a vast majority of black folks. Yesterday made all of those black leaders a lot less relevant, if, that is, they want to continue the old rhetoric and attitudes.
With that being said, Lowery's prayer must be taken in context. In a way it shows the distinction between a fading generation (Lowery) and a new generation of black Americans (Obama). The attitudes are different.
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Jesse Jackson and Al sharpton should be in jail for being the shakedown artists they are.
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01-21-2009, 08:36 AM
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Re: I shocked at the White remark in Lowery's pray
Lord, in the memory of all the saints who from their labors rest, and in the joy of a new beginning, we ask you to help us work for that day when black will not be asked to get back, when brown can stick around -- (laughter) -- when yellow will be mellow -- (laughter) -- when the red man can get ahead, man -- (laughter) -- and when white will embrace what is right.
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I think he prefaced the qeustionable wording with the bolded above. He prayed that in memory of the past injustices.
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01-21-2009, 08:40 AM
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Re: I shocked at the White remark in Lowery's pray
Deleted that last post after rereading the comment. The insinuation is that whites still aren't doing what is right. Rather than it being a historical view, it looks more like a present accusation.
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01-21-2009, 10:22 AM
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Re: I shocked at the White remark in Lowery's pray
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Originally Posted by ILG
Deleted that last post after rereading the comment. The insinuation is that whites still aren't doing what is right. Rather than it being a historical view, it looks more like a present accusation.
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That's how people I'm around felt.
Matter of fact, I was in a conference room where they were showing it and when he said that the majority in that room said, "that's right." I was the miniority.
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01-21-2009, 11:01 AM
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Re: I shocked at the White remark in Lowery's pray
I immediately thought it was racist. Blacks can be just as racist as whites.
Why does everybody celebrate his Kenyan goatherder father and conveniently forget that his mother who raised him was a white woman from Kansas?
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01-21-2009, 11:08 AM
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Re: I shocked at the White remark in Lowery's pray
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Originally Posted by Bullwinkle
I immediately thought it was racist. Blacks can be just as racist as whites.
Why does everybody celebrate his Kenyan goatherder father and conveniently forget that his mother who raised him was a white woman from Kansas?
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The racism sure does go both ways. I listen to a black gospel radio station and on the way in to work today they were talking about Obama got off beat clapping at one of the balls.
The DJ said, he must have got that from his mom's side.
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01-21-2009, 11:09 AM
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Re: I shocked at the White remark in Lowery's pray
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Originally Posted by rgcraig
The racism sure does go both ways. I listen to a black gospel radio station and on the way in to work today they were talking about Obama got off beat clapping at one of the balls.
The DJ said, he must have got that from his mom's side.
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 Hilarious!!! That was racist!!!!
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01-21-2009, 11:40 AM
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Re: I shocked at the White remark in Lowery's pray
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Originally Posted by TRFrance
Even if we give Lowery the benefit of the doubt, and say his remarks were not intended to be racist, they obviously can easily be taken as being racist.... and Lowery should have been smart enough to have known that ahead of time.
So at the very least, I think he used poor judgment, and his comments showed a lack of sensitivity, and were simply inappropriate, especially for an occasion like this.
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Agreed.
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