Article by Sabin on women teaching

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Trouvere

Surely she wasn't quaified.Not a woman.

Heh heh.

Some people pigeonhole thoughts into their traditions, and then scripture comes along and blows it apart.

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Any thoughts on why Deborah was Judge?

At that time God had no one man to lead his people and there were several judges at the time.Go all back though the old testement all the leaders that God had one at a time were men.How come any of the apostles were not women ? Apostles are head athority in the church.Women can't hold any head athorty because man is head (athority) of women.Women can't be a bishop because a bishop must be able to teach and a women can't teach men.A bishop must know how to rule his house so he knows how to rule the church.A woman can't rule the house or a church.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Joelel

At that time God had no one man to lead his people and there were several judges at the time.Go all back though the old testement all the leaders that God had one at a time were men.How come any of the apostles were not women ? Apostles are head athority in the church.Women can't hold any head athorty because man is head (athority) of women.Women can't be a bishop because a bishop must be able to teach and a women can't teach men.A bishop must know how to rule his house so he knows how to rule the church.A woman can't rule the house or a church.

I like all these additions to the Word. Does the bible say "THERE WAS NO MAN"?

All we read is this:

Jdg 4:3-5 KJV And the children of Israel cried unto the LORD: for he had nine hundred chariots of iron; and twenty years he mightily oppressed the children of Israel. (4) And Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth, she judged Israel at that time. (5) And she dwelt under the palm tree of Deborah between Ramah and Bethel in mount Ephraim: and the children of Israel came up to her for judgment.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Any thoughts on why Deborah was Judge?

She was a lawyer before she got hired for the Peoples Court with Judge Deborah?

[Steve Epley]

[QUOTE=Praxeas;69352]She was a lawyer before she got hired for the Peoples Court with Judge Deborah? [/QUOT

[Steve Epley]

Deborah did what she had to do and so did Jael maybe she had the hammer ministry????????????????
There is a note on this subject in Heb.11 when Paul is referring to the incident he mentions Barak and omits Deborah why do you reckon?????

Deborah was not a Levite I promise you that Isreal was a nation not just a religious service.

Considering the prevaling social (both Jewish, Greek, and Roman) regarding the social roles of women, why is there no CLEAR CUT AFFIRMATION of these doctrines of women being in leadership in the church to be found in the New Testament?

Where is the apostolic DENUNCIATIONS of "worldly, pagan suppression of women's rights and abilities"?

Also, were the earliest Christians ever censured or derided by their peers for having "women leaders"?

Just wondering...

[Sister Alvear]

I disagree on most of the posts I have read...however Deborah not only judged Israel as a judge she also gave spiritual guidance to Israel for 40 years...soooooooooooooooooooo if you need spiritual guidance would anyone have went to Deborah?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Deborah did what she had to do and so did Jael maybe she had the hammer ministry????????????????
There is a note on this subject in Heb.11 when Paul is referring to the incident he mentions Barak and omits Deborah why do you reckon?????

Deborah was not a Levite I promise you that Isreal was a nation not just a religious service.

Nobody said she was a Levite. What do you mean?


The fact remains that a woman held a position of authority in God's government, called of God to do so. Judges were not just secular in those days, since she was also a prophetess.

Where are the New Testament scriptures which teach "women may teach the church, may lead the church, may serve as elders/bishops/overseers of the church"?

Somebody list all the NT verses which SPECIFICALLY DEAL WITH THE SUBJECT AT HAND...