Saints on Drugs

[NotforSale]

I'm amazed how so many in the Christian world have accepted the diagonostic fraud proposed and used by Psychiatry. We must educate ourselves concerning this wretched approach to help people who are not "feeling" quite right.

I have studied brain development from a medical and pshycological perspective, spent untold hours conseling people, and have served God for the last 28 years. Never have I seen such a reproach of deceit in the Church, using drugs to bring a person back to normality.

One of the Churches we recently attended was staggered by this lie. My wife was told, almost every adult female in the Church was on anti-depressent medication. My heart was grieved to find out that scores of our young children and young adults are on medications designed to "Balance" thier brain deficiancy.

I don't quite understand why so many have given in to these medical scams. Research supports, without question, the danger and the dark reasons why America is being "Drugged". Pharmicutical companies and paid off doctors have dupped God fearing people into believing they need these chemicals to survive and be normal. If we don't rise up and reclaim God's Word as the Book of True Medicine for the mind, we will send our future generation into the slums of drug addiction.

When I was saved, I was a drug addict. My mind was altered, and conceiving spiritual things in this illusional state was almost impossible. God's Word gave me comfort, letting me know a sober mind was a godly mind. His voice would ring clear and His counsel would lead me in the paths of righteousness. He could touch my mind, my heart, and my soul with a peace that passes all understanding, despite the fact I grew up in an alcholic home, filled with abuse. My job was to rid my body of chemical, and then fill my mind with His Word. It worked! And, it still works!

I don't want to get to long with this opening statement. I'll do my best to give more reason and rhyme in further responses to why we need to kiss the pharmy's goodbye, or else.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b30iwhEw9ho

I hope this video has helped to stir dialog and further research. This is just the beginning of facts that can be found online concerning this subject.

Satan stands by, wanting to keep us at bay with inflicted thoughts and a craving for pills.

The Lord can set us free if we'll claim it. Lets run into His tower where we will be safe. He will restore our souls! Nothing is too hard for Him. All things are possible!

We need to run into this Valley and kill Golieth!

NFS

[ILG]

I somewhat agree with what you are saying. You say you have studied these things for a long time, I assume on your own? And yet, we can learn some things from psychiatry and counselors even if we don't agree that drugs are the right answer. Maybe they are sometimes though.

[Blubayou]

I do think that doctors push drugs especially depression drugs on people, without trying to get to root of the problem first. I know this has happened to me and to my husband. I think there are a couple of reasons for this- we live in an instant world where we want an instant fix for the problem and getting to the root of the issue would take lots of time with the doctor and many do not want to invest that kind of time. I do think there are occasions where anti depression drugs can be very helpful to get someone over the "hump" and help them work through a problem. In this case - they would be used in conjunction with talk therapy with a counselor, or if a person is willing- reading and soul searching on their own. I do think that there is a physical depletion of natural enzymes(sp) that control moods and depression. In that case - just like with insulin- someone would need to take anti depression drugs unless God would heal them. JMO Hope this makes sense.

[Tina]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

I'm amazed how so many in the Christian world have accepted the diagonostic fraud proposed and used by Psychiatry. We must educate ourselves concerning this wretched approach to help people who are not "feeling" quite right.

I have studied brain development from a medical and pshycological perspective, spent untold hours conseling people, and have served God for the last 28 years. Never have I seen such a reproach of deceit in the Church, using drugs to bring a person back to normality.

One of the Churches we recently attended was staggered by this lie. My wife was told, almost every adult female in the Church was on anti-depressent medication. My heart was grieved to find out that scores of our young children and young adults are on medications designed to "Balance" thier brain deficiancy.

I don't quite understand why so many have given in to these medical scams. Research supports, without question, the danger and the dark reasons why America is being "Drugged". Pharmicutical companies and paid off doctors have dupped God fearing people into believing they need these chemicals to survive and be normal. If we don't rise up and reclaim God's Word as the Book of True Medicine for the mind, we will send our future generation into the slums of drug addiction.

When I was saved, I was a drug addict. My mind was altered, and conceiving spiritual things in this illusional state was almost impossible. God's Word gave me comfort, letting me know a sober mind was a godly mind. His voice would ring clear and His counsel would lead me in the paths of righteousness. He could touch my mind, my heart, and my soul with a peace that passes all understanding, despite the fact I grew up in an alcholic home, filled with abuse. My job was to rid my body of chemical, and then fill my mind with His Word. It worked! And, it still works!

I don't want to get to long with this opening statement. I'll do my best to give more reason and rhyme in further responses to why we need to kiss the pharmy's goodbye, or else.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b30iwhEw9ho

I hope this video has helped to stir dialog and further research. This is just the beginning of facts that can be found online concerning this subject.

Satan stands by, wanting to keep us at bay with inflicted thoughts and a craving for pills.

The Lord can set us free if we'll claim it. Lets run into His tower where we will be safe. He will restore our souls! Nothing is too hard for Him. All things are possible!

We need to run into this Valley and kill Golieth!

NFS

Some people would be surprised to find many "problems" they have that throw them out of balance can be fixed by a monthly Vitamin B injection.

[ILG]

I think nutrition is much better than drugs. But I won't wholesale reject drugs on any and all occasions as being bad.

[RandyWayne]

An even bigger fraud is the homeopathic (non)drugs that are making their way into religious circles.
Homeopathic anything has far more in common with magic hair than any specific drug which would actually have an effect.

[Tina]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

An even bigger fraud is the homeopathic (non)drugs that are making their way into religious circles.
Homeopathic anything has far more in common with magic hair than any specific drug which would actually have an effect.

Like all those ephedra containing products that are basically speed... gives people jitters & a high feeling... supposedly for "weightloss".

I can't believe how many people have gotten into those products.. and are pushing others to buy them.

[Truthseeker]

My rule is never take any meds dealing with the mind. and never go to a Pychiatrist.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Tina

Like all those ephedra containing products that are basically speed... gives people jitters & a high feeling... supposedly for "weightloss".

I can't believe how many people have gotten into those products.. and are pushing others to buy them.

Homeopathic "drugs" are basically drugs that consist of actual toxic substances under the theory that a very little of a bad substance will help you body tolerate or cure itself from a MUCH larger portion. The problem comes that the dilution factor is so extreme that there is nearly no chance of even a single molecule of the original chemical in the final product. Practitioners, when confronted with this simple mathematical fact, will go out on a limb and start talking about "vibrations" and "memory" of the original substance still being present.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Homeopathic "drugs" are basically drugs that consist of actual toxic substances under the theory that a very little of a bad substance will help you body tolerate or cure itself from a MUCH larger portion. The problem comes that the dilution factor is so extreme that there is nearly no chance of even a single molecule of the original chemical in the final product. Practitioners, when confronted with this simple mathematical fact, will go out on a limb and start talking about "vibrations" and "memory" of the original substance still being present.

So immunizations work because they have the actual substance? Just trying to understand the difference here...