Saints on Drugs

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

Have you ever thought about how possibly TV and whatever you watch can cause issues in your health from a mental aspect. I very much believe such constant stimulation from a negative standpoint gets the body to release chemicals on a dialy basis it would not naturally. Thus our body becomes out of whack causing health issues over the long haul not including spiritual issues.

Good science has proven, TV has contributed greatly to the moral demise of our World. The mind is a place that stores and processes information. The mind is also stimulated through the eye gate. Constant bombardment of foul and debased entertainment can weaken our resolve to avoid evil. Studies and science have shown through decades of research all this to be true. The Bible as well, backs this philosophy.

Also, Jesus said the eyes are the light of the body. Garbage in, garbage out. We must be careful what we allow into the heart, as the heart is where we ultimately make the final choice about life and its many problems.

What's even worse is this; Video games. Video games have been shown to release dopamine (naturally produced moriphine-like stimulate) in the brain, causing euphoric and addictive qualities. They have done tests' on children in the hospital who were suffering and in pain. They allowed them to play video games and found the need for pain medication was reduced, and even eliminated. This is stunning with power.

Another interesting find is this: The counselers who work in my office have told me, every case of pornography addiction they have dealt with includes video game addiction. Not one case was void of video games. This shows, fantasy, which stimulates almost a medicinal affect, breeds and grows with violent ferver.

This has caused many to throw caution to the wind, losing family, jobs, and most important, reality. When we lose touch with reality, the consequences are unfathomable.

Lord Bless, NFS

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by scotty

It is sad, this past summer at our state church camp the nurse who distributes medication to the campers told me that about 60% of the attendees take anti-depressants or retlin of some kind.

this particular camp was the 10 to 14 yr olds and total attendance was little over 600.

Your find is not isolated. This problem is epidemic amongst the youth in the Christian world, everywhere.

I hope we awaken to this before it's too late!

NFS

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by TJJJ

Awesome post. Glad you started it.

How come it is when we go to another country and the local witch doctor comes in with his grass skirts and bones and beads, and tries to give a potion to someone to help their "FEARS", we immedietly go into conniptions and intercessory prayers of deliverance. But when that person is wearing a white coat and the potion looks like a small pill to help "FEARS" we think it is okay?

The entire ADHD, Depression movement is a scam! Our kids don't need that!

Attention Deficit Syndrome! We all have that sometimes on a sunday morning.

What many of those kids need is less sugar, less video games and TV, and more pysical exercise. That combined with a disciplined pray and devotions schedule would work well! No drugs, no homeopathic medicine!

Thanks! They have a "Syndrome" for everything today. People think because they've attached some fancy name to something, it is something. I guess it is something; A LIE!

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by TJJJ

You ain't kiddin! My dad's prescription for me if I got to hyperactive was a swift swat! Worked most of the time with no side affects!

My son told me recently; "Dad, thanks for disciplining us". I couldn't believe my ears.

He's a fine young man today, working hard and taking care of his own family. And, he's not demented, timid, or disrespectful. He's also never been in jail.

Using the rod is not only Bible, it's easy and right. We keep our children from much calamity by telling them "NO". Giving them a pill to straiten them out never even crossed my mind.

NFS

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

My son told me recently; "Dad, thanks for disciplining us". I couldn't believe my ears.

He's a fine young man today, working hard and taking care of his own family. And, he's not demented, timid, or disrespectful. He's also never been in jail.

Using the rod is not only Bible, it's easy and right. We keep our children from much calamity by telling them "NO". Giving them a pill to straiten them out never even crossed my mind.

NFS

I realize your point in this thread (correct me if I'm wrong) is to voice your opposition to the variety of psychiatric drugs on the market, and admittedly WAY over prescribed. I do think there is a place for those with extreme bi-polar disorders and depressions (the kind of people who end up in the local jail when they stop taking their drugs due to violent outbursts), but yes, the vast majority of people are just hyperactive (exercise more!) or feeling the blues to one degree or another (again, if EXTREME, then you may need help of a chemical nature).
What bothers me is the people who come out of the woodwork in these discussions who say "Just say NO to ALL drugs!" (except vitamins and homeopathic junk). Chemotherapy WORKS! Radiation works! To say otherwise is to rely on sources heard over Art Bells Coast to Coast program or listening too much to "Rita" -the infamous believer in the 'mothership' who occasionally calls Rush Limbaugh's program.
I personally know these type of people. One couple just lost their daughter because they refused to take her to the doctor. A simply insulin shot would have saved her. (See her case currently going through the Wisconsin court system.)

[ILG]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

Randy, I would never use RADIATION THERAPY that has VERY little success rate in the overall scheme!

Your body did not get cancer because it needed chemo or radiation!

Also your point on vaccines..... Seriously they don't help and the common process known to produce antibodies are being questioned now. As many have shown this form that current science uses really doesn't work. Your body can defend itself with natural remedies and does not need vaccines.

I guess you also support childhood vaccines as well.

I understand the hesitation about chemo and radiation. However, when my husband got testicular cancer, after discussion and reading a lot, he decided to get the surgery and radiation, which for testicular cancer has a 95% cure rate. Now, the key is, what caused it in the first place and what changes can be made to keep from getting cancer again. (He had bladder cancer....which was miraculously found and removed when very small.)

[nahkoe]

Originally Posted by ILG

I understand the hesitation about chemo and radiation. However, when my husband got testicular cancer, after discussion and reading a lot, he decided to get the surgery and radiation, which for testicular cancer has a 95% cure rate. Now, the key is, what caused it in the first place and what changes can be made to keep from getting cancer again. (He had bladder cancer....which was miraculously found and removed when very small.)

You just nailed it. "After discussion and reading a lot."

I don't think medical decisions should be made lightly. I wish there was more unbiased information available so consumers *could* make informed decisions more easily. It's extremely difficult to find information about some things (vaccines for instance) that isn't biased so far to either side that you can't figure out what the middle ground really is.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by scotty

It is sad, this past summer at our state church camp the nurse who distributes medication to the campers told me that about 60% of the attendees take anti-depressants or retlin of some kind.

this particular camp was the 10 to 14 yr olds and total attendance was little over 600.

Wow! Truely sad.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by nahkoe

You just nailed it. "After discussion and reading a lot."

I don't think medical decisions should be made lightly. I wish there was more unbiased information available so consumers *could* make informed decisions more easily. It's extremely difficult to find information about some things (vaccines for instance) that isn't biased so far to either side that you can't figure out what the middle ground really is.

Yeah. I don't know that I would get chemo if I was told I had 6 months without and maybe a year with. I think 6 months without would be better.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

Good science has proven, TV has contributed greatly to the moral demise of our World. The mind is a place that stores and processes information. The mind is also stimulated through the eye gate. Constant bombardment of foul and debased entertainment can weaken our resolve to avoid evil. Studies and science have shown through decades of research all this to be true. The Bible as well, backs this philosophy.

Also, Jesus said the eyes are the light of the body. Garbage in, garbage out. We must be careful what we allow into the heart, as the heart is where we ultimately make the final choice about life and its many problems.

What's even worse is this; Video games. Video games have been shown to release dopamine (naturally produced moriphine-like stimulate) in the brain, causing euphoric and addictive qualities. They have done tests' on children in the hospital who were suffering and in pain. They allowed them to play video games and found the need for pain medication was reduced, and even eliminated. This is stunning with power.

Another interesting find is this: The counselers who work in my office have told me, every case of pornography addiction they have dealt with includes video game addiction. Not one case was void of video games. This shows, fantasy, which stimulates almost a medicinal affect, breeds and grows with violent ferver.

This has caused many to throw caution to the wind, losing family, jobs, and most important, reality. When we lose touch with reality, the consequences are unfathomable.

Lord Bless, NFS

So should we get rid of video games in our homes?