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03-23-2009, 02:31 PM
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Re: This Is Why We Get a Bad Rap!!
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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*
Or maybe you're just making sense. LOL.
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LOL - - Mich knows I'm saying that in love!
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Oh, she's always made sense - just with an attitude - lol!
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LOL, though I've found that if people object to the attitude, they will often object to the rest just on principle!
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That's why I deleted mine. I wasn't sure she would have that same mindset about me. 
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PO that's so funny! That's why I was so shocked when you responded to my post it went like this 'Wow, she read my post! Wow, she liked it!! Wow, she agreed with it!!!"
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03-23-2009, 02:31 PM
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Re: This Is Why We Get a Bad Rap!!
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I pretty much agree with you. I think most UPC churches are fairly balanced. The extreme "rules" churches are mostly independent, or a few of the other organizations. 
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03-23-2009, 02:32 PM
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Re: This Is Why We Get a Bad Rap!!
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Originally Posted by Michlow
PO that's so funny! That's why I was so shocked when you responded to my post it went like this 'Wow, she read my post! Wow, she liked it!! Wow, she agreed with it!!!"
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See? I'm not so bad. I deleted something because I thought you would take it wrong! Not such a bad cat after all, huh?
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03-23-2009, 02:32 PM
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Re: This Is Why We Get a Bad Rap!!
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Originally Posted by rgcraig
Count me as your second witness and I won't be telling either.
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Then it's definately not cool.
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03-23-2009, 02:35 PM
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Re: This Is Why We Get a Bad Rap!!
It just seems like human nature to want to discuss someone else's faults. Especially if they have been part of our "group", and have for some reason or other left. But, for all that, we should be praying for them, and saying, there but for the grace of God go I. It should however make us take notice of all the souls that person can be reaching with the wrong message. And make us more than ever want to reach souls with God's love and mercy.
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03-23-2009, 02:36 PM
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Re: This Is Why We Get a Bad Rap!!
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Originally Posted by Cindy
It just seems like human nature to want to discuss someone else's faults. Especially if they have been part of our "group", and have for some reason or other left. But, for all that, we should be praying for them, and saying, there but for the grace of God go I. It should however make us take notice of all the souls that person can be reaching with the wrong message. And make us more than ever want to reach souls with God's love and mercy.
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Amen!
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03-23-2009, 02:52 PM
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Re: This Is Why We Get a Bad Rap!!
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See? I'm not so bad. I deleted something because I thought you would take it wrong! Not such a bad cat after all, huh? 
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I never thought you were bad! I just knew that I irritated you!
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03-23-2009, 02:54 PM
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Re: This Is Why We Get a Bad Rap!!
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
So you had a good moral compass and chose to be bad anyway.
*shrug* Been there myself.
The point I'm trying to get to is that since little things are given the same "sin value" (for lack of a better term), then when you do a little thing, you think that you might as well do it all--since you're already going to have to repent on Sunday AM. That's the mindset I'm talking about. There's no independent interpretation of what is right and wrong, based on a personal set of morals. Everything is interpreted through the lens of "will I get caught?" rather than "does this please God?"
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Abigail,
You added this last part to your post after I moved on, so I want to address this.
Again, I think it is the heart of the individual. I think the Catholic Church focuses on, at least ours did, repentance almost as much as the Pentecostal church does. During every service you had the confessionals on the side aisle, always reminding you. You knew you had to repent before you could take Communion.
BUT, I never at any time had the mindset that I could do whatever because I could repent later. There were some things that people could not talk me into doing. Even, if you please, standing around in a black string bikini, no one was going to make me participate with them or with some things they were involved in. I'm using that example because if you are halfway naked, what's next? "Nothing, so forget it, Budro!" lol!
I never said, "Well, I've come this far, I might as well go all the way."
Once we had been drinking and smoking a little and ended up at a stranger's apartment. I did not know these guys. My friend wanted to go with them because they were driving a limo. I was sitting on the couch assessing the situation and presently stood up and yelled, "I WANT TO GO HOME! TAKE ME TO MY CAR!!!"
So, no, I don't think that goes for every individual. I think, again, it's an individual thing, IMO. I believe we are taking some of this way too far, on both ends of the spectrum.
Someone writes a blog and cusses, so all ex-UPCers are idiots OR this UPC guy is control a freak and a thief, so all UPC ministers are idiots. Not so and we know it!
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03-23-2009, 02:55 PM
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Re: This Is Why We Get a Bad Rap!!
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Originally Posted by Michlow
I never thought you were bad ! I just knew that I irritated you! 
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Oh, yes! Majorly!!  I apologize for allowing that to show through.  But you had it coming!!!!!!!
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03-23-2009, 04:29 PM
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Re: This Is Why We Get a Bad Rap!!
This all reminds me of the pendulum theory. When you come from an extreme position, when you let go of that position the momentum (volatility) usually takes you past center and into the polar opposite position.
This is common of folks with extreme liberal positions as well as extreme conservative positions.
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