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04-01-2009, 06:04 PM
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Re: Costume dispute!!!!
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Once heard a preacher say she was naked. No joke!
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The Bible does say she was caught in the act....
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The statement, "very act" doesn't require observers catching them in coitus. Catching the woman as she leaves the bed chamber or even just the home of an erring gentleman would be enough to indict her for the crime. Thus, the man could conceivable have locked himself inside "safe" from the "religious police."
Just read some Saudi newspapers and you'll get a good idea of how this can and does get worked out.
I knew a man that was an American military contractor for the Saudi Air Force for a while. He told of one trip into the countryside where he and his group came across a woman being buried up to her neck and then being stoned to death. His vivid descriptions of the rocks impacting the woman's head were very disturbing.
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04-01-2009, 07:23 PM
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Re: Costume dispute!!!!
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YEAH I always wondered why SHE was the only one they brought to Jesus. Seeing as the law stated they BOTH should be stoned. YET WHERE WAS THE MAN????
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probably there with a stone in his hand
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04-01-2009, 08:51 PM
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Re: Costume dispute!!!!
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You often have to compromise "historical accuracy" sometimes to make a visual statement in a drama. The "bling-bling" can be a powerful visual in a darkened auditorium with lights on the woman in question. The shortened sleeves may highlight that dramatically as well.
The question, I suppose, is how important is this visual. It can be striking, but is it needed? Also, how about loose sleeves at the forearms? That way, at a key moment she could raise her arms and the sleeves drop away revealing the sparkle.
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She is wearing a satin fabric gown (green) and drape (rust) like this:
and a headdress like this - only hers is gold.
I felt this was enough to get the point across. I don't want the shorter sleeves because she is Hebrew and wouldn't have worn them in that fashion. As a matter of fact, I didn't want this headdress either. I wanted the gold headband with the coins danging. Oh well!
I spoke to the Director tonight and she said, "Cut the sleeves, she's backslid."
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04-01-2009, 08:52 PM
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Re: Costume dispute!!!!
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The statement, "very act" doesn't require observers catching them in coitus. Catching the woman as she leaves the bed chamber or even just the home of an erring gentleman would be enough to indict her for the crime. Thus, the man could conceivable have locked himself inside "safe" from the "religious police."
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Good grief! I had to look that word up, Pel!!
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04-01-2009, 09:03 PM
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Re: Costume dispute!!!!
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Good grief! I had to look that word up, Pel!! 
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Oh, stop it!
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04-01-2009, 09:42 PM
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Re: Costume dispute!!!!
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probably there with a stone in his hand
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Probably one of the Pharisees who "caught" her in the act.
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04-01-2009, 10:12 PM
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Re: Costume dispute!!!!
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I'm in charge of sewing and preparing the costumes for our Easter program. I've been doing costumes for years and I have a question. The Director and I are not arguing, just discussing, for the record.
Background:
I like to be historically accurate when I prepare a costume. The play is a narration, some script and a musical.
We have one part where the women, taken in adultery, is thrown at Jesus' feet.
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The Director wants me to shorten the women's sleeves because she wants her to have bling, bling showing on her wrists. I don't have a problem with that, but I'm not in agreement with the shortened sleeves. In John 8:3 the Scribes and Pharisees bring her to Jesus quoting Moses's law - that bears out that she is a Hebrew. She is saying that this is Mary Magdelene in Luke 8:2 and I don't believe it is the same woman.
I don't think just because she committed adultery that she was a Hoochie Mama. LOL! I think she would dress as the Hebrews dressed. I don't see her as adopting the dress of the Romans or Greeks, per se.
So, would you shorten the sleeves or leave them long? I have to do what the Director wants, but this just bugs me!
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PO, you gotta admit that in old time Pentecost that jewlery is associated with a "hoochie mama" as you say so I am betting that is why the director wants bling on the woman. I have a feeling that in her mind she associates a woman wearing jewelry with a sinful woman. Can't imagine why!
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
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04-01-2009, 10:41 PM
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Re: Costume dispute!!!!
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Originally Posted by Sam
probably there with a stone in his hand
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Probably one of the Pharisees who "caught" her in the act.
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I have often wondered that myself.
Not much different from today is it?
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04-01-2009, 10:45 PM
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Re: Costume dispute!!!!
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YEAH I always wondered why SHE was the only one they brought to Jesus. Seeing as the law stated they BOTH should be stoned. YET WHERE WAS THE MAN????
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Maybe the "man" was really a vampire...........
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04-01-2009, 11:44 PM
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Re: Costume dispute!!!!
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Maybe the "man" was really a vampire...........
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Vampires really are the cause of a lot of trouble. They're overtaking "alien abduction" on my list of excuses for being late for work.
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