Harrassed & Detained For Carrying Cash @ Airport

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

I think that is where he blew it, or didn't think about it anyway. Keith and I will be in a fair amount of airports this year (all international [probably makes a difference]) But....

Keith always carries cash on his person, actually around his neck with our plane tickets and passports. No one ever sees it, or has asked to see it.

Maybe this is a lesson to all, never put a wallet full of cash through inspection at the airport.

The lesson needs to go to the TSA... it is neither illegal nor reason for search & detainment for an American Citizen to carry cash.

They need to know the limitations of their power and operate within it.

If they cannot do that they need to go back to work for Burger King.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Ferd

then we have a most messed up country.


someone who wants a name for themselves needs to get that before the supreme court.

Ferd,
The guy has a bunch of money on him AND a recording device. Why was he rigged up with a recording device? Something just doesn't seem right.

I've been rigged with a recording device and had motive. What is the guy's motive? Why did he just happen to have the recording device on him at that time? These are questions that I would want answered.

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

The lesson needs to go to the TSA... it is neither illegal nor reason for search & detainment for an American Citizen to carry cash.

They need to know the limitations of their power and operate within it.

If they cannot do that they need to go back to work for Burger King.

My thinking would be why take chances? Yes it surely doesn't seem right, or reasonable what so ever to detain anyone for carrying cash, it's just plain ludicrous.

But being cautious avoiding trouble is a plan that I like, and will likely remember the next time I cross and go through inspection in an airport.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by bishoph

Not necessarliy....it depends on the laws of the state it happened in. Some states only one party has to have knowledge of the recording. The following is an exerpt from The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press:

Thirty-eight states and the District of Columbia permit individuals to record conversations to which they are a party without informing the other parties that they are doing so. These laws are referred to as “one-party consent” statutes, and as long as you are a party to the conversation, it is legal for you to record it. (Nevada also has a one-party consent statute, but the state Supreme Court has interpreted it as an all-party rule.)

Twelve states require, under most circumstances, the consent of all parties to a conversation. Those jurisdictions are California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Washington. Be aware that you will sometimes hear these referred to inaccurately as “two-party consent” laws. If there are more than two people involved in the conversation, all must consent to the taping.

Regardless of the state, it is almost always illegal to record a conversation to which you are not a party, do not have consent to tape, and could not naturally overhear.

Good information to know... thanks for posting.

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Ferd,
The guy has a bunch of money on him AND a recording device. Why was he rigged up with a recording device? Something just doesn't seem right.

I've been rigged with a recording device and had motive. What is the guy's motive? Why did he just happen to have the recording device on him at that time? These are questions that I would want answered.

Those are good questions pressing! I still don't see how carrying cash even in an excessive amount is wrong-

Does anyone know if this is even PSA protocol to detain anyone carrying cash over a certain amount..just curious!

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

My thinking would be why take chances? Yes it surely doesn't seem right, or reasonable what so ever to detain anyone for carrying cash, it just plain ludicrous.

But being cautious avoiding trouble is a plan that I like, and will likely remember the next time I cross I go through inspection.

Any "chance taking" that would be going on is to keep allowing these infringements to continue increasing in frequency & intensity and expect that they won't get worse.

The only thing that will change these things will be monetary & penal action against those who exceed their granted authority.

It is certainly a true statement that Thomas Jefferson made when he said...

"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

When we allow them to trample our rights because it is the easier or less fearful route then the trampling will continue.

When we make the stand and they begin to fear a people who will stand up and say no when they cross the line of their granted authority then they will watch themselves and make sure that they stay within the well marked lines of that authority.

Why study to know what your authorities are/are not when nobody will stand up and call your bluff anyway.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Ferd,
The guy has a bunch of money on him AND a recording device. Why was he rigged up with a recording device? Something just doesn't seem right.

I've been rigged with a recording device and had motive. What is the guy's motive? Why did he just happen to have the recording device on him at that time? These are questions that I would want answered.

PO, the TSA didnt know he had any kind of recording device. they just knew he had cash on him.

the "device" was a cell phone that is capable of recording. he wasnt "wired" there is no motive there was no suspision.


There was only a box of money that he was constitutionally allowed to walk around with. he was not detained because of any othe suspicious behavior that the money would then be considered an extension of the findings.


he was held for no other reason than the cash he had on his person.


and the harm done to him was among other things, he was held against his will for no legal reason by U. S. Federal Authorities.

That by itself, even if he did not miss his flight is damage to his person.

in fact, in larger context, it is a damage to all 300+Million Americans.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

Those are good questions pressing! I still don't see how carrying cash even in an excessive amount is wrong-

Does anyone know if this is even PSA protocol to detain anyone carrying cash over a certain amount..just curious!

I saw a documentary where they were detaining people. I didn't sit still long enough to know the details, but the people were unloading massive amounts of various currency from around the world.

I think they can come up with any excuse to detain you and get away with it.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Ferd,
The guy has a bunch of money on him AND a recording device. Why was he rigged up with a recording device? Something just doesn't seem right.

I've been rigged with a recording device and had motive. What is the guy's motive? Why did he just happen to have the recording device on him at that time? These are questions that I would want answered.

He wasn't "rigged" with a recording device.

He had a cell phone that has a function where you can quickly cause it to begin recording.

When the questioning began he activated the record function on his cell phone and it began recording.

The "bunch of money" he had on him was from sales of various items at a Campaign For Liberty event. Cash is privacy.

[bishoph]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Ferd,
The guy has a bunch of money on him AND a recording device. Why was he rigged up with a recording device? Something just doesn't seem right.

I've been rigged with a recording device and had motive. What is the guy's motive? Why did he just happen to have the recording device on him at that time? These are questions that I would want answered.

I think you may have missed the statement that judge Napolitano (sp??) made concerning this. He stated the guy had one of those "new super duper telephones" and all he had to do was touch it and it started recording.