Dude, you are way too young to be so serious! LOL!
I said "In honor of Earth Day I didnt recycle TODAY! get the implication there? I have a big old 4 foot recycle container at my house and everything that can goes in it.
you need to take some of that starch out of your shirt collar and loosen up a bit.
I am however, very happy that you arent worried about crushing ants when you drive down the road! That makes me feel better!
It's not funny, because this is a trend I see a lot in church folk, and that is the lack of consideration for the earth's resources. At the UPC I used to attend, when my sister would offer to take the used up Sunday school paper, that would have been thrown away, so she could recycle it, the Sunday school superintendent would give her a hard time, and one time exclaimed, "I don't care about saving the whales!" It was really foolish and childish, but for some reason, many saints seem to have a desire to combat environmentalists, so they go to the other extreme and almost try to invent ways to harm the planet or they just want to be lazy.
Glad to see someone who had a well-thought out post on this thread.
Why is it that if we disagree with tree huggers, we automatically want to go to the other extreme and purposely harm the planet? And if we disagree with extreme animal rights people like PETA, we want to joke about out hunting exploits or how much meat we can stuff into our already full stomachs and clog our arteries with the cholesterol? It's childish!
My family recycles, and I'm proud of it. We've grown our own food, and it is good for us and the planet. We use recycled bags for our groceries, and buy food that's grown organically and not harmful to the environment (along with organic and humanely raised meat). I know people that use compost piles to fertilize their gardens instead of fertilizers and pesticides, I think it's GREAT!
And my pastor has two gardens and between his house and the deacon's house there are about half a dozen apple trees.
Why anyone would want to harm the planet, just to get back at tree huggers is beyond me... Life's a lot better when you can enjoy the benefits of clean air, food and water.
-Bro. Alex
Bro. Alex,
Why do you assume that we are purposefully harming the planet if we think Earth Day and tree huggers are idiotic and idiots, respectively?
We had a discussion with our children on the way home from church Wednesday, regarding Earth Day. The explanation was very simple: We don't subscribe to the liberal thought process that says we owe "mother nature" anything.
Are we good stewards? Yes. Do we conserve water and energy? Yes. Do we litter? No. Do we throw trash in the lake? No. Do we avoid using chemicals in our gardens and lawns if possible? Yes. Do we avoid killing living organisms unnecessarily, except for food or in self-defense? Yes. Do we recycle? Okay, sometimes.
Why do we do all this? Because God created the earth and all it's resources FOR mankind, and therefore we owe it to HIM to be good stewards, as a measure of our thanks.
As for earth day, we will ignore it. It is a liberal, heathen motivation for something we already do in praise to God.
Global warming is quite another story. I question the sanity of anyone who can take it seriously.
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--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
The party you asked about, Ferd, is located in New York.
As for being "liberal"- I don't hug trees, or fear crushing an ant while driving, and my family removed a few trees in our backyard when we got a pool, and I don't believe in global warming.
However, not recycling is LAZY! This is, seriously, a holiness issue. We need to be good stewards of the land GOD has put us on. That means "going green" when we can (it can save money too, for those who are frugal), not littering (which is EXTREME LAZINESS), not wasting water needlessly, and being compassionate towards animals (GOD's eye, which is on the sparrow, will not hold blameless the one that is cruel to animals).
Nonsense. It's a common sense thing, and a matter of taking the time to do it, much like choosing to donate old clothes to Goodwill, rather than tossing them in the trash. But a holiness issue? Come on. You have got to stop attributing EVERY little thing to Christianity.
Live your convictions, Alex, but don't judge others as being unholy because they don't collect cans or stack paper in boxes. We recycle sometimes, some things, but not everything. I reuse more than I recycle. Regardless, for anyone to judge that as an issue of my relationship with God is Cuh-Razy.
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t's the blatant disregard for the earth, animals and our resources that give one more thing for the non-Christians to mock us about, as being ignorant. I refuse to live in ignorance, and I don't want to live in filth, neither do I want to be lazy or excessive.
I don't think Ferd or anyone else is advocating a "blatant disregard for the earth, animals and our resources." I am on board with Ferd that "Earth Day" is stupid, and I don't need liberal tree huggers teaching me common sense about the earth that I learned from my grandparents as a wee tot. For that matter, we were "reusing" old clothes as rags, turning them into quilts, or donating them to charities WAYYYYYY back before the green freaks made it hip and popular.
My father loved to hunt, but he was very compassionate about animals, and would not allow ANY sport hunting--we were taught that you only kill what you intend to eat. (Except in cases of overpopulation or in self-defense.)
I'm just saying...I'm already conservative, and that doesn't only apply to my political views. It applies to my whole lifestyle. I'm going to kick earth day and all its advocates to the curb, because it's just another way the "tolerant" liberals are trying to turn their own opinions into moral issues, and force their views onto everyone else.
Quite frankly, if someone owns their own property, and they want to kill every single deer that crosses their lawn, and mount its head on their den wall--that's their business. I don't have to go visit their moose morgue, nor do I have to legislate their right to hunt on their own property. If they want to use an old, clunky, gas-guzzling truck, I don't care. It probably causes less pollution than the big SUV's and limos the hypocritical green freaks drive and ride in.
Use common sense, I agree. Be a good steward. But please don't make it a "holiness" issue.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
Nope, he is from Chicago, or was that hawaii, or indonesia, or kenya. I ferget.
All joking aside, I do try to be environmentally conscious, every time I go hiking I come back with a day pack full of other peoples granola bar wrappers and bottles. Annoying.
Joking aside I think Green, wish I could afford a wind farm.
Nope, he is from Chicago, or was that hawaii, or indonesia, or kenya. I ferget.
All joking aside, I do try to be environmentally conscious, every time I go hiking I come back with a day pack full of other peoples granola bar wrappers and bottles. Annoying.
Joking aside I think Green, wish I could afford a wind farm.
We will be installing a huge photovoltaic system soon. But this thing is ungodly expensive!
(And I am not doing it to "save" the Earth..... Just to gain a SMALL amount of independence -this time from the electric company.)
The party you asked about, Ferd, is located in New York.
As for being "liberal"- I don't hug trees, or fear crushing an ant while driving, and my family removed a few trees in our backyard when we got a pool, and I don't believe in global warming.
However, not recycling is LAZY! This is, seriously, a holiness issue. We need to be good stewards of the land GOD has put us on. That means "going green" when we can (it can save money too, for those who are frugal), not littering (which is EXTREME LAZINESS), not wasting water needlessly, and being compassionate towards animals (GOD's eye, which is on the sparrow, will not hold blameless the one that is cruel to animals).
It's the blatant disregard for the earth, animals and our resources that give one more thing for the non-Christians to mock us about, as being ignorant. I refuse to live in ignorance, and I don't want to live in filth, neither do I want to be lazy or excessive.
I'm really interested in seeing well thought out responses from those who may disagree with me, I really do want to understand where you're coming from, and see if I am missing something.
-Bro. Alex
Do you consider hunting and eating meat as lack of compassion toward animals?
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We will be installing a huge photovoltaic system soon. But this thing is ungodly expensive!
(And I am not doing it to "save" the Earth..... Just to gain a SMALL amount of independence -this time from the electric company.)
That would be nice. The earth isn't in a bad a shape as some let on. History channel is running this thing, Life After People. Earth looks like it does just fine after we aren't here...
A holiness issue!? This is new. Please expound on how being, or not being, an environmentalist is about holiness.
Ps ... being green doesn't save much money. Those stupid new "green-friendly" light bulbs that only give half the amount of light and take an hour to actually brighten the room cost almost twice as much as a regular light bulb.
Is it a holiness issue to fill landfills full of mercury? cuz those new lightbulbs the Green freaks have forced us all to use are full of mercury.
sorry knuckleheads!
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We will be installing a huge photovoltaic system soon. But this thing is ungodly expensive!
(And I am not doing it to "save" the Earth..... Just to gain a SMALL amount of independence -this time from the electric company.)
Good griefers, couldn't you just say a huge solar panel system.
I had to go look it up, thinking it was some cool star trek-type thing ... anyways, very disappointed with it being just a dumb solar panel system.
j/k pretty cool ... anything to get away from SRP.
It's not funny, because this is a trend I see a lot in church folk, and that is the lack of consideration for the earth's resources. At the UPC I used to attend, when my sister would offer to take the used up Sunday school paper, that would have been thrown away, so she could recycle it, the Sunday school superintendent would give her a hard time, and one time exclaimed, "I don't care about saving the whales!" It was really foolish and childish, but for some reason, many saints seem to have a desire to combat environmentalists, so they go to the other extreme and almost try to invent ways to harm the planet or they just want to be lazy.
-Bro. Alex
that is because the "environmnetalists" really arent. they are just Mental.
it aint about church it is about liberal eko-facism.
I have recently heard one of these eko-facists actually say that Man was God's only mistake! There is nothing holy or righteous about what these idiots are doing. it is just another way for them to try to subjugate humanity to thier will.
so pardon me if I dont recycle on "Earth Day" or if I dont hug a tree, or if I point out that the best thing an eko-facist can do is stop breathing.
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