Dr. Jeffers anyone? - Page 15

freeatlast · #**141** 05-02-2009, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen

WOW! Martha's Vineyard, I'm surprised that there is an apostolic assembly there, that area is REALLY expensive. I am also surprised that Jeffers is from MA.

Anyways, I heard Jeffers preach at Winterfire '09 in CT, and I'll just say I'm a bit uneasy with this brother. I don't know him that well, but with the way he helped take up the offering at the conference, and with the whole spirit behind the altar call that he led and whatnot, my spirit was sort of troubled and I am somewhat doubtful of whether this man is a prophet. It surely would help if he would have prophesied some things and if they came to pass, then I could lean in the direction of him being a prophet. Also, if he wasn't so much apart of the "establishment" (UPC) then I could see him being a prophet, but I am obviously a bit biased against denominationalism. He also seems a bit proud, but I could have mistaken that for boldness... Anyways, that's my impression of him.

-Bro. Alex

If you were 10% as close to God as Dr. Jeffers is and 5% as smart....you'd know to keep an impression like that to yourself.

Falla39 · #**142** 05-02-2009, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen

WOW! Martha's Vineyard, I'm surprised that there is an apostolic assembly there, that area is REALLY expensive. I am also surprised that Jeffers is from MA.

Anyways, I heard Jeffers preach at Winterfire '09 in CT, and I'll just say I'm a bit uneasy with this brother. I don't know him that well, but with the way he helped take up the offering at the conference, and with the whole spirit behind the altar call that he led and whatnot, my spirit was sort of troubled and I am somewhat doubtful of whether this man is a prophet. It surely would help if he would have prophesied some things and if they came to pass, then I could lean in the direction of him being a prophet. Also, if he wasn't so much apart of the "establishment" (UPC) then I could see him being a prophet, but I am obviously a bit biased against denominationalism. He also seems a bit proud, but I could have mistaken that for boldness... Anyways, that's my impression of him.

-Bro. Alex

Bro. Alex,
You just turned 20 yrs. old a short time ago and I feel uneasy about you as
a younger brother. I do not desire to offend you but your post tells a great
deal about you. And what was "your spirit" looking for!

I do not agree with everything about the UPC but I thank God for the good
things they have represented through the years. My late father told me many
years ago, "While it is not perfect, it's the best I've seen and I looked a long
time". He has been gone almost 20 yrs (Oct) and there have been changes.
It is grieveous to see young people with such a "critical" spirit.

I did not say these things to offend you, but to help you.

Bless you, Little Brother

Evang.Benincasa · #**143** 05-02-2009, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by freeatlast

IF you were 10% as close to God as Dr. Jeffers is and 5% as smart....you'd know to keep an impression like that to yourself.

The Great and Powerful OZ has spoken!

Brother Sept5SavedTeen, don't fret, anyone who wants to be known as DOCTOR isn't even ten percent close.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

Sept5SavedTeen · #**144** 05-02-2009, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Monkeyman

Funny, I got a totally different impression, so what about my Spirit? Why wasn't it troubled as your was? Also, he ain't part of the establishment, he doesn't hold license with the UPC so your prophet theory kinda goes out the window, anyways, that's my 2 cents!

Your spirit is shown by the way you posted. And he was apart of the "establishment" in the taking up of the offering that night at Winterfire.

There are many others who's spirits are troubled by Jeffers, so these ideas of mine are not held by myself only. I have not spoken about Jeffers with anyone except the friends I went to the conference with, and the brethren around my pastor's dinner table (briefly), so I do not claim to know Jeffers much, to spend much time listening to him, or spending much time talking about him. However, the impression I got of him left me feeling uneasy.

-Bro. Alex

Sept5SavedTeen · #**145** 05-02-2009, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by freeatlast

If you were 10% as close to God as Dr. Jeffers is and 5% as smart....you'd know to keep an impression like that to yourself.

I'm surprised you'd post something like that freeatlast. Also, you ought to be careful how you handle a brother in the LORD, with the words you speak. I may very well be closer to GOD that Jeffers or yourself for that matter. When Elijah thought he was the only one, the LORD in fact had 7,000 (Romans 11:4) men who were serving GOD. You have no idea who I am, and I really thought you would post more carefully than to say a thing like that. I could be anointed of the LORD, seeing things in the spirit and having close communion with GOD, and you speak against me so rashly for stating an impression of a man who I did see and hear speak.

-Bro. Alex

Sept5SavedTeen · #**146** 05-02-2009, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Falla39

Bro. Alex,
You just turned 20 yrs. old a short time ago and I feel uneasy about you as
a younger brother. I do not desire to offend you but your post tells a great
deal about you. And what was "your spirit" looking for!

I do not agree with everything about the UPC but I thank God for the good
things they have represented through the years. My late father told me many
years ago, "While it is not perfect, it's the best I've seen and I looked a long
time". He has been gone almost 20 yrs (Oct) and there have been changes.
It is grieveous to see young people with such a "critical" spirit.

I did not say these things to offend you, but to help you.

Bless you, Little Brother

Sis. Falla,

I beg you to look at things differently in regards to the UPC. GOD often hides things from the wise and prudent, and reveals them to babes. I have seen a lot of churches and been thru a fair amount of religious movements in my short time being alive, and no denomination is, "the best thing around." Denominationalism is NOT of GOD, and I beg you to consider this statement. The best thing around is capturing the spirit of the things the apostles had, and then to go further than even the apostles, for the church is intended to go from glory to glory. Denominationalism is a step, a leap rather, backwards and separates us from the glory that is available to us. A structure has a lot to do with the outcome of a thing, sister.

Be blessed!

-Bro. Alex

jeffadams · #**147** 05-02-2009, 10:39 AM

In the UPCI people hear someone speak at BOTT and they all thrive to have the person. Jeffers is no Prophet...I doubt he is even a real man of God. Something is not right with him....time will tell!

Falla39 · #**148** 05-02-2009, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen

Sis. Falla,

I beg you to look at things differently in regards to the UPC. GOD often hides things from the wise and prudent, and reveals them to babes. I have seen a lot of churches and been thru a fair amount of religious movements in my short time being alive, and no denomination is, "the best thing around." Denominationalism is NOT of GOD, and I beg you to consider this statement. The best thing around is capturing the spirit of the things the apostles had, and then to go further than even the apostles, for the church is intended to go from glory to glory. Denominationalism is a step, a leap rather, backwards and separates us from the glory that is available to us. A structure has a lot to do with the outcome of a thing, sister.

Be blessed!

-Bro. Alex

Bro. Alex,

My late father said many years ago, and he has been gone almost 20 yrs.
meaning it was several years before he passed on. He held license with the
UPC. His statement to his eldest daughter (me) was, "While it (UPC), or the
organization, is NOT perfect, it is the best I've seen and I looked a long time
before I applied for license with them". Added in my post that there had
been changes and I did not agree with everything. Not speaking of the plan
of salvation.
Dad didn't say it was the "best thing around". He spoke for that time in his
life. He had seen so many that didn't belong to any organizations, and there
was no accountablity. Don't believe we're speaking of denominations, Brother.

Don't believe your statement of God hiding things from the wise and
prudent and revealing it unto babes fit here. Romans 1:22, speaks of
those who "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools" (foolish).
We all need to seek to be "wise as serpents and harmless as doves".

Again I would never intentionally offend you, but you need to listen and
learn. Your cannot always rely on "my spirit" and feelings as a dependable guide.
WE must learn the difference in "our spirit" and "The Spirit of The Living God"
and be led by His Spirit!

Hugs,

Falla39

ReddMann24 · #**149** 05-02-2009, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

The Great and Powerful OZ has spoken!

Brother Sept5SavedTeen, don't fret, anyone who wants to be known as DOCTOR isn't even ten percent close.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

I dont believe he gives his doctorate as much thought as you do.
I ve heard him say"you can freeze by degree's".

ReddMann24 · #**150** 05-02-2009, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen

WOW! Martha's Vineyard, I'm surprised that there is an apostolic assembly there, that area is REALLY expensive. I am also surprised that Jeffers is from MA.

Anyways, I heard Jeffers preach at Winterfire '09 in CT, and I'll just say I'm a bit uneasy with this brother. I don't know him that well, but with the way he helped take up the offering at the conference, and with the whole spirit behind the altar call that he led and whatnot, my spirit was sort of troubled and I am somewhat doubtful of whether this man is a prophet. It surely would help if he would have prophesied some things and if they came to pass, then I could lean in the direction of him being a prophet. Also, if he wasn't so much apart of the "establishment" (UPC) then I could see him being a prophet, but I am obviously a bit biased against denominationalism. He also seems a bit proud, but I could have mistaken that for boldness... Anyways, that's my impression of him.

-Bro. Alex

This looks like an act of service, Ive heard of preachers doing these tasks that so many think are beneath them to humble themselves before the LORD.
Our dist supt. was doing bus route a while back!! I think it shows character for these men who many would call important to still do these jobs.