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05-12-2009, 10:33 AM
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Re: Head Coverings
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
The passage is very simple "if a woman be not covered(uncut hair) let her be shorn(allow her to worship with cut hair) since she is allowing her hair to grow(let her be covered.)Those new converts some of them were the 'shorn women' however they had come into the church they could not grow their hair out overnight yet they had repented let them be with the understanding let them be covered or they are allowing their hair to grow.
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I mean no disrespect, but I don't see HOW you get that out of those scriptures!
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05-12-2009, 10:36 AM
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Re: Head Coverings
Nowhere in that scripture can you get that a woman cannot cut her hair long hair yes but it is a far strech to say they cannot cut it
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05-12-2009, 10:39 AM
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Re: Head Coverings
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I mean no disrespect, but I don't see HOW you get that out of those scriptures!
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Just simple reading skills.
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05-12-2009, 10:39 AM
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Re: Head Coverings
I just did a search of the word 'hair' in the Bible. It's in the KJV 80 times, the ESV 98 times. Not one single time was there a scripture about a woman not cutting her hair.
There were a few directives about men's hair, but there is very little, period, about women's hair.
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05-12-2009, 10:40 AM
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Re: Head Coverings
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Just simple reading skills. 
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Well, I've been reading since I was 5, and I didn't see anything about new converts in that passage.
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05-12-2009, 10:40 AM
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Re: Head Coverings
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True and the amazing thing to me it they shout their hats off????? 
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Shame, shame. They should be wearing hat pins to prevent such a catastrophe.
Really, though, I would find it very discouraging to think that I couldn't approach God unless I had a piece of cloth or felt on my head. And IF it's *okay* for a woman to pray at home without her covering--then it's really okay anytime. Either it's a sin or it isn't.
I don't have patience for these conditional standards, where it's alright to do something at home, but not at church or on the platform. But that's a whole new thread.
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05-12-2009, 10:52 AM
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Re: Head Coverings
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I Cor. 11: 6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.
We say that 'be not covered' means she's cut her hair. And shorn means 'cut, at all'. So this verse reads:
6For if the woman's hair is cut, let her also cut her hair:
Makes absolutely no sense.
Paul was writing to them about headcoverings. Physical headcoverings. He was saying that just as nature covers women with long hair, women should cover themselves with a headcovering. And if they refuse to wear a headcovering, they might as well cut all of their hair off, it's just as much a shame.
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THERE YA GO! I won't argue about what Paul said or meant, I don't need all that, I just KNOW from GOD what I am to do., if I had any doubts or misgivings [like I've read so many times from so many people on forums, its just not worth making it such a problem] I wouldn't abide by it., but since I don't have one bit of problem with it,
its simple enough for ME, so I DO keep my head covered .,at least 90% of the time that I'm awake ( I do think I should let my hair breathe SOME of the time, lol ) since I practice as much as possible "praying w/o ceasing".
The way I see it, if a person wants to understand it and abide by weaing a veil, or other type head covering, for prayer FINE., if they don't FINE, like most things it becomes a personal conviction situation; for myself it is also a holy consecration unto my LORD., its btwn US.
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05-12-2009, 11:01 AM
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Re: Head Coverings
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Just simple reading skills. 
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05-12-2009, 11:06 AM
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Re: Head Coverings
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Just simple reading skills. 
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Really?
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05-12-2009, 11:18 AM
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Re: Head Coverings
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Shame, shame. They should be wearing hat pins to prevent such a catastrophe.
Really, though, I would find it very discouraging to think that I couldn't approach God unless I had a piece of cloth or felt on my head. And IF it's *okay* for a woman to pray at home without her covering--then it's really okay anytime. Either it's a sin or it isn't.
I don't have patience for these conditional standards, where it's alright to do something at home, but not at church or on the platform. But that's a whole new thread.
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Abby, they wear the covering everywhere and even at home when they are about to pray. They where them everywhere because they don't want to be in a situation to need to pray and can't because their head isn't covered. That is the purpose of wearing them everywhere.
I haven't bought into any of it, but it is great to see what others are thinking.
Personally, I don't think God is requiring this of us. I also feel that doing this brings some unecessary discrimination from the world when God hasn't asked us to do this. Christians have enough to deal with without creating issues.
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