Bishop SC Johnson - Page 57

Ilion · #**561** 07-20-2009, 12:12 AM

Peace be unto you:

I am new to this post, but not to this debate.

First, a person cannot be saved until he/she believes that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. (1 John 3:23, 1 John 5:10-13)

However God's Word is interpreted, clearly if a person does not believe that Jesus is the Son of God, that person's salvation is in question, PERIOD! (John 3:18)

Secondly, the blind devotion to Bishop S.C. Johnson and his teachings exhibited by many of his adherents (John 5:43), in opposition to what is written in the Word of God, is extremely dangerous and unscriptural (I Cor. 3:5-10, I Cor. 4:6)

I am not a person that likes to step on people's toes, whatever they believe, but this should have been mentioned years ago. I believe that now souls are at stake. There is no time to play around with this subject.

warrior · #**562** 07-20-2009, 10:31 AM

Praise the name of the Lord Our God!

sis_perez · #**563** 07-21-2009, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warrior

John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

So he that came from heaven Was that the son?

warrior · #**564** 07-21-2009, 12:35 PM

Sister Perez, I am not sure what you are looking for or what else you want anyone to add to this, but everything has been explained and the Bible makes it clear. The word is clear that the Son was born of the virgin Mary, was crucified, rose on the third day and is now sitting on right side of the father. I can't offer you anything other than what the Bible says.

Perhaps you are looking for some type of technicality to try and trap someone into, but I can only offer you what the word of God says. I have nothing more.

sis_perez · #**565** 07-21-2009, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ilion

Peace be unto you:

I am new to this post, but not to this debate.

First, a person cannot be saved until he/she believes that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. (1 John 3:23, 1 John 5:10-13)

However God's Word is interpreted, clearly if a person does not believe that Jesus is the Son of God, that person's salvation is in question, PERIOD! (John 3:18)

Secondly, the blind devotion to Bishop S.C. Johnson and his teachings exhibited by many of his adherents (John 5:43), in opposition to what is written in the Word of God, is extremely dangerous and unscriptural (I Cor. 3:5-10, I Cor. 4:6)

I am not a person that likes to step on people's toes, whatever they believe, but this should have been mentioned years ago. I believe that now souls are at stake. There is no time to play around with this subject.

Nice to meet u iion but you cant see what you just cant see. You have this qutoe above, First, a person cannot be saved until he/she believes that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. (1 John 3:23, 1 John 5:10-13) Those scriptures does not say what you have written. It speaks about believing on the Name. The bible says a lot of things, but where does it say after his death that he is the Son of God Now
When did the father become the son?? When? If the son is in heaven then who is he? Is he a God? God said there would be no God formed after him. God created that body that Mary birthed. Is God lying? The son died. The Father which is the eternal spirit Can't die. God is recorded as being many things including the son of God. If you can't see that Jesus Christ is God Almighty, then you must be carnal minded. Christ is nobodys son. He made a body and got in it. You cant see that. He calls himself the Son, the son of Man, he calls himself the savior. He is called many things. So who is the Savior? The Father (God) or your so called son (Jesus)? I still hold strong to Jesus Christ is God Almighty. No son came from heaven and no son rose.

warrior · #**566** 07-21-2009, 01:18 PM

Did you Say that " No Son Came From heaven and No Son Rose? " Are you crazy? You really need to open your Bible. It has said all of that. I am afraid for your soul, just like others have said.

You have created a doctrine totally of your own, and the Bible makes it clear that Jesus rose from the dead after he was crucified. THE BIBLE SAYS IT!

You on the other hand have no scriptures for anything you have said.
I pray for your soul. In the name of Jesus!

warrior · #**567** 07-21-2009, 01:19 PM

Sis. Perez, Bishop Johnson himself would rebuke you.

warrior · #**568** 07-21-2009, 01:28 PM

MATTHEW 28:2-7
2 And behold, there was a great earthquake; for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat on it.
3 His countenance was like lightning, and his clothing as white as snow.
4 And the guards shook for fear of him, and became like dead men.
5 But the angel answered and said to the women, "Do not be afraid, for I know that you seek Jesus who was crucified.
6 "He is not here; for He is risen, as He said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.
7 "And go quickly and tell His disciples that He is risen from the dead, and indeed He is going before you into Galilee; there you will see Him. Behold, I have told you."

The huge stone was moved, and the Roman seal was broken, in spite of the guards at Jesus' tomb

warrior · #**569** 07-21-2009, 01:30 PM

ROMANS 1:4
4 and declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the Spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead,

warrior · #**570** 07-21-2009, 01:33 PM

1 Corinthians 15:14 (King James Version)

14And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.