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08-28-2009, 06:44 PM
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Re: Kidnapped girl resurfaces 18 years later
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Originally Posted by Baron1710
So we should set murderers and rapist free? Asking why we punish and how we punish is an important question. I doubt you really think that people shouldn't be punished.
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Nope, I never said anything about punishing. I said I was responding to the last part of your post where you questioned revenge.
Since you are pressing the issue of punishment with me, I would say there are consequences to our actions. If my child does something I said not to do, I would not use the word punish, but discipline. Discipline is supposed to train people, it has a purpose. I think of punishment as just making someone feel bad.
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Gotta fix that last sentence... I think when people want to punish someone it is to make the person that did something to feel bad so that the person punishing can feel good. ;-)
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08-28-2009, 06:45 PM
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Re: Kidnapped girl resurfaces 18 years later
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Incredible story-- my heart goes out to this poor girl.
What about the abductors wife!? She just stood by for 18 yrs watching this happen. I am so glad that she will be facing charges as well.
I just don't think they deserve any kind of trial, they should just be sent to prison for the rest of their lives period.
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Don't worry Baron1710 would fight to his last breath to defend them in court.
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08-28-2009, 06:46 PM
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Re: Kidnapped girl resurfaces 18 years later
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So we should set murderers and rapist free? Asking why we punish and how we punish is an important question. I doubt you really think that people shouldn't be punished.
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Don't worry, they always have individuals like yourself waiting in the wings to insure that these people have a defence.
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08-28-2009, 06:47 PM
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Re: Kidnapped girl resurfaces 18 years later
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Nope, I never said anything about punishing. I said I was responding to the last part of your post where you questioned revenge.
Since you are pressing the issue of punishment with me, I would say there are consequences to our actions. If my child does something I said not to do, I would not use the word punish, but discipline. Discipline is supposed to train people, it has a purpose. I think of punishment as just making someone feel bad.
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Why we punish determines to a large extent how we punish. So how we answer those questions are important.
C.S. Lewis has a great article on why we punish.
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08-28-2009, 06:48 PM
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Re: Kidnapped girl resurfaces 18 years later
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Better yet have them read your posts on AFF for a week straight, that would be punishment enough for anyone.
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And just think you have it right now.
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08-28-2009, 06:48 PM
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Re: Kidnapped girl resurfaces 18 years later
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Don't worry, they always have individuals like yourself waiting in the wings to insure that these people have a defence.
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Yep, that would be cruel and unusual punishment anyway.
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08-28-2009, 06:49 PM
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Re: Kidnapped girl resurfaces 18 years later
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Why we punish determines to a large extent how we punish. So how we answer those questions are important.
C.S. Lewis has a great article on why we punish.
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He must be reading it in hell to Screwtape.
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08-28-2009, 06:54 PM
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He must be reading it in hell to Screwtape. 
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Classless. But not unexpected from you.
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08-28-2009, 07:39 PM
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Re: Kidnapped girl resurfaces 18 years later
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Classless. But not unexpected from you.
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It's the truth.
Oh, and lighten up tough guy.
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08-28-2009, 07:42 PM
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Re: Kidnapped girl resurfaces 18 years later
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Is it? perhaps you have been there and seen him?
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