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10-05-2009, 07:49 PM
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Re: DKB: The Leader
I don't have a dog in the fight I feel Elder Haney is a great Christian man,and I feel Elder Bernard the same when I look in my mirror my hands are full,I'll pray for these men.
I want to be holy and please God ,and I seek a closer walk with The One True God.
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10-05-2009, 08:00 PM
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Re: DKB: The Leader
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I don't have a dog in the fight I feel Elder Haney is a great Christian man,and I feel Elder Bernard the same when I look in my mirror my hands are full,I'll pray for these men.
I want to be holy and please God ,and I seek a closer walk with The One True God.
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They have a tough job just by the nature of the government structure of the UPC. Many of the strong willed want the General Superintendent to throw down hard on those that don't hold to their issues, but they will be the first to scream about local church independence if it goes against them. The UPC is a democracy where many of the folks voting wish they could have the position themselves... thats a tough lot to deal with.
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10-05-2009, 08:07 PM
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Re: DKB: The Leader
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So you got a letter too, huh? Talk about global impact!
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How about everyone posting the letters they've received from the new GS over the years? I got one... but I'm certain it was in the file cabinet I hoisted into a dumpster serveral years back.
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10-05-2009, 08:08 PM
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Re: DKB: The Leader
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I agree with crakjak. If DB thinks the same way now as he did when he wrote this particular piece, you should expect a steady exodus of well-informed saints and probably more splinterings in the ministry.
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I find your statement I quoted rather surprising. What makes you think that all of a sudden UPC folks are going to decide that DKB's doctrinal positions, books, papers, etc are not wonderful?
He has been the defacto theolgian of the UPC for almost 30 years now. If there was going to be any kind of exodus over his positions it would have happened a long time ago.
If the extra biblical doctrines of the magic hair lady and angelmeister LS don't raise any alarms within the UPC why would DB's works affirming long held UPC positions do do?
Furthermore DKB has proven to be a very savvy person when it comes to management, public relations, etc. I don't see him making any rash moves that would run either libs or cons off.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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10-05-2009, 08:13 PM
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Re: DKB: The Leader
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CHA-CHING! Renda, you are spot on!
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Stop saying that! "Spot on... spot on..." Stop!
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10-05-2009, 08:20 PM
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Re: DKB: The Leader
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10-05-2009, 08:22 PM
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Re: DKB: The Leader
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Stop saying that! "Spot on... spot on..." Stop!
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Pelanthais,
I think your criticism of the Deacon saying "spot on" was spot on!!!!!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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10-05-2009, 08:54 PM
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Re: DKB: The Leader
uhg!
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10-05-2009, 09:01 PM
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Re: DKB: The Leader
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uhg!
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ugh
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10-05-2009, 09:04 PM
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Re: DKB: The Leader
For the record, references to DB as General Superintendent of the United Pentecostal Church International are in no way intended to insinuate that I, the ubiquitous Deacon Blues, am the holder of such esteemed office. Just in case there was any confusion....
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