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Old 12-08-2009, 10:43 AM
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might be a good move, since the illegals are leaving a little elbow room, lol
Many are going back, the great dream of getting rich has faded!
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Old 12-08-2009, 01:30 PM
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well ILG, I watched the entire video and I am glad that it faults both republican and democratic administrations. I agree that the climate change regime and the cap and trade system is just a front for world government, but what can be done about it?

I heard the usual accusations against the federal reserve, but no concrete facts about who is in charge of the fed and what exactly are they doing to undermine democracy. There are a lot of charges about homeland security but I don't see an agenda to oppose it.

the video has a lot of charges but not enough facts as to what can be done to oppose a global regime. I think one world government is destiny and nothing can be done to stop it. Money rules the world and corporate interests make the laws.
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Old 12-08-2009, 01:32 PM
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I think one world government is destiny and nothing can be done to stop it. Money rules the world and corporate interests make the laws.

This prompts a question in my mind.

Are you of the futurist belief concerning the subject of eschatology?
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Old 12-08-2009, 01:42 PM
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This prompts a question in my mind.

Are you of the futurist belief concerning the subject of eschatology?
yes, why. how are things different from your perspective?
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yes, why. how are things different from your perspective?
As a futurist growing up I was taught about all of the horrible things that were coming.

One world government
One world church
A person who is the antichrist
etc etc etc.

That paradigm builds the following thought process within us.

It is coming.
It will happen.
God said it.
There's nothing you can do to stop it.

As a partial preterist I see much of the scriptures used to further those thought as past and I no longer see things things as necessarily inevitable.

The futurist mindset demands that these things be inevitable.
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Old 12-08-2009, 01:55 PM
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As a futurist growing up I was taught about all of the horrible things that were coming.

One world government
One world church
A person who is the antichrist
etc etc etc.

That paradigm builds the following thought process within us.

It is coming.
It will happen.
God said it.
There's nothing you can do to stop it.

As a partial preterist I see much of the scriptures used to further those thought as past and I no longer see things things as necessarily inevitable.

The futurist mindset demands that these things be inevitable.
can u explain how rev 13 has been fulfilled already?
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Old 12-08-2009, 02:28 PM
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Re: The Fall of the Republic

if you want similar info of what is on the video, there is alex jones website called infowars.com.

jesse ventura also has a show called conspiracy theory on tru tv airing this week covering 9/11, 2012 and climate change.
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Old 12-08-2009, 04:43 PM
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Re: The Fall of the Republic

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As a futurist growing up I was taught about all of the horrible things that were coming.

One world government
One world church
A person who is the antichrist
etc etc etc.

That paradigm builds the following thought process within us.

It is coming.
It will happen.
God said it.
There's nothing you can do to stop it.

As a partial preterist I see much of the scriptures used to further those thought as past and I no longer see things things as necessarily inevitable.

The futurist mindset demands that these things be inevitable.
So do you think that after the fall of the Repub, that everything will be rebuilt again? It has take 70 years in Russia and things still have not recovered.

Would it not be better if we preplanned some sort of evacuation plan to another counrty. If things go to pot here it is likely to get really bad for Christians.

Socialism is opposed to Christianity. Things will begin to look bad for the Christians still in this nation.
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Old 12-08-2009, 04:50 PM
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This was long, but worth watching. A little depressing, but sometimes truth is.

It makes you consider getting rid of your TV.

I say the only hope for America is PRAYER!
We definitely need to be praying. We are to blame in part. Do you vote in your local elections? Do you vote for you state elections? So many have sat back for so long and only voted for a president. We were handed a republic not a democracy that gave us the power. We have chosen to sit back and let the government takeover. We are now waking up to what they are doing and finally the people who have been sounding the alarm for so long are being believed. The only way we will get back control is through local government and putting the power back in the state government instead of the federal government. There is still time for this to happen, but people have to get out and do their part.

If you did an open records request on your government agencies (PD, Fire Department, schools) you would be surprised at where the money goes. We the people have to keep them in check and if we do not, can we expect any less from them.

Up until the late 1800's the people used to put into office Godly men and Godly men would run for office. Robert Ingersol started teaching the the church should stay in the 4 walls of the church and out of government. The churches picked up this teaching and for so long we have heard that we should stay away from politics. So today we don't have men of virtue in office but corrupt men. Corrupt men will only produce corrupt government.
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Old 12-08-2009, 05:53 PM
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I believe that this is a coming judgment for the decisions made back in 1973, Roe vs Wade, this country has destroyed millions of babies. God will judge.

It has now been almost 40 years. One generation.

Just my opinion.
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