Chester Wright's Letter to the UPC!!!!!

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Here she is again, in case you missed her the first time :-)

Prax, was that your Mother-in-law canditate?

Remember the girls grow up to look like Mom.....

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by NobodyImportant

There is a whole lot of difference between the two.
For me to go to a porn site, I have to decide to do it. It doesn't happen by accident.
For someone to view something digusting on tv, one need only channel surf and they will see it regardless of whether they intend to or not.
This argument is so worn and thin that it really doesn't have much merit since the two mediums are vastly different.
Also, there are such things called internet filters to protect the accidental viewing of porn. Not available on tv as I recall.
NI

You are way behind NI, TV has just as much protection as the internet. Further TV is not nearly as dangerous as the internet, unless one has cable channels. You can tailor your TV with parental controls to suite your liberality or the lack there of.

[Ron]

TV didn't bring "Moral Decay" it is just a "Mirror" that reflects "Society" as it is!

No, I am not saying TV is right, but Society as a whole has gotten so corrupt it is hard to tell the difference with TV & Society as a whole!

JMHO

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Ron

TV didn't bring "Moral Decay" it is just a "Mirror" that reflects "Society" as it is!

No, I am not saying TV is right, but Society as a whole has gotten so corrupt it is hard to tell the difference with TV & Society as a whole!

JMHO

I think they are both concurrent. TV did add to the moral decay just as much as it reflects it

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by CC1

My wife was recently visiting some UPC folks out of town overnight and when I called to see what they were doing they were watching CSI on the computer!!!!

If a person's relationship with Jesus Christ does not create in them a separation from this world's culture, then all the "standards" that can be written in a book will not separate them from the culture.

As I have said before preach the Word, teach folks to develop deep and intimate relationship with the Lord. Otherwise, folks will walk in the flesh and will miss the life available thru the life of Christ. If this forum would focus on the root sources of righteousness rather than this ridiculous and shallow fussing about all the possible sin one could fall into.....?

Chester Wright's letter actually does highlight the current weakness in the UPC, and it is not the TV advertising issue. The UPC is so diverse (divided)that it lacks any unifying focus. The division on "standards" is actually tearing it apart.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I think they are both concurrent. TV did add to the moral decay just as much as it reflects it

Maybe it just allowed it to be shared so freely? OOOPS!

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Ron

Maybe it just allowed it to be shared so freely? OOOPS!

It did actually and sadly repeating something over and over and over is how people learn things, including behaviors....they see certain stuff on TV over and over and over and it can have an influence on them

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

It did actually and sadly repeating something over and over and over is how people learn things, including behaviors....they see certain stuff on TV over and over and over and it can have an influence on them

True. One thing that shocks a generation doesn't faze the next one.

Originally Posted by NobodyImportant

The problem is that if Resolution 6 passes, then the issue IS indeed being forced on those who oppose it since they will not be forced to comply by headquarters, but by members from other churches who will likely pressure members of churches who are against the measure.
This will not likely be direct, but it will certainly be there.
Further, it will open a pandora's box of issues such as what is truly godly. Those who are for it already ask that question. It has caused great division.
Finally, UPCI has always stood against it. To change that stance would mean an admission that they were wrong for all of those years. I think that would be a travesty.

If those who want this to happen truly want it, then why are they calling us divisive who are opposed? We didn't bring it up or try to push it. They did. The division has come from their camp.

It would have been more godly on their part to have removed themselves for the sake of unity (which would have been a godly response) instead of fomenting the rebellion that is amongst the ranks.
JMO
NI

Exactly. Those wanting this resolution are pushing it over and over in opposition to an organizational stance that is ALMOST as old as the organization itself. Bringing it up continually IS devisive. I am in agreement with Chester Wright about the prevailing attitudes on both sides of the issue; most brethren are caustic on both sides of the issue.

I feel that the writers of the small book that came out (Larry Booker, Peter Connell, Nate Wilson, and Kenny Godair) exhibited a Chirstian spirit regarding their views and that Chester Wright also exhibited that same spirit.

Originally Posted by Thad

that's all true. no one should argue against that but what about the internet and the problem related to porn and child molestation???
are you equally alarmed about that ?

Seems that most folks that bring up Internet in this way are not so much saying that we should not use Internet - as they use it for a means of somehow trying to justify the use of television. Hmm...