Steve Pixler - Technology and Dominion - Must hear

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Perhaps, maybe even not perhaps, alot of what you say is true. But, people will invest (time and money) in what they love.

Originally Posted by DAII

... with the demands and rigors ...

On another note, it isn't really fair to assume anything about my schedule without knowing it. Or even to imply that it isn't as busy as yours or someone elses. Trust me, my plate stays full.

One last note... the one thing I hate about "Text" conversations is they so often come across as terse or uncordial. I hope all that I have written is taken in a kind fashion as I have written it. (kindly)

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Originally Posted by DeuteronomyCh8

As for Steve Pixler........He's a fine man, and highly annointed of GOD.

Very True.

[DeuteronomyCh8]

You are exactly right. People pay no mention to time when its something they enjoy. The... I work and have kids excuse is highly overated. But they argue in the Apostolic Friends Forum for 3 hours over NOTHING!

[DAII]

Originally Posted by reubstr

Perhaps, maybe even not perhaps, alot of what you say is true. But, people will invest (time and money) in what they love.



On another note, it isn't really fair to assume anything about my schedule without knowing it. Or even to imply that it isn't as busy as yours or someone elses. Trust me, my plate stays full.

One last note... the one thing I hate about "Text" conversations is they so often come across as terse or uncordial. I hope all that I have written is taken in a kind fashion as I have written it. (kindly)

1. Kudos on defending your pastor and adding perspective to your experience as a church member there ... Personally, I don't know Pixler from a hole in the wall ...

2. I in no way was implying that plate is not already full ... or do not have a very busy schedule ....

simply ... My point was that school aged children add an extra layer to the rigors and demands of the customary work week schedule ....

Having had 2 toddlers myself ... I know they are a handful ...

I potty trained the last one on my own ... yes, it is demanding.

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Originally Posted by DeuteronomyCh8

The... I work and have kids excuse is highly overated.

Probably true, but it sounds like DAII is very sensative to the issue of time. It also sounds to me like it is a reasonable issue for him to be sensative to. Since He teaches special needs people everyday, he has to be more atuned to the time someone can listen and still be learning.

We have now strayed a 3 or 4 subjects away from the thread. funny how that happens.

[DAII]

Originally Posted by DeuteronomyCh8

You are exactly right. People pay no mention to time when its something they enjoy. The... I work and have kids excuse is highly overated. But they argue in the Apostolic Friends Forum for 3 hours over NOTHING!

The same can be said about a preacher or teacher that rambles ... for 2-3 hours after his points have been made ....

The Word will bear fruit with or without the long-windedness of your favorite preacher.

I have been on both sides of the discussion, Deut ... having ministered and having sat in the pews ...

As a PK, I've come to value the extraordinary efforts of laymen and laywomen who live in the uniqued demands of a post-modern world ... in blended families ... sometimes in single-parent homes working their tails off ... as I've seen a preacher give his life to the cause ....

This is about balance and mutual respect.

A 6 hour service pales to a two hour movie ... and it can breed contempt and prolong a culture that does not have balance.

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Originally Posted by DAII

The same can be said about a preacher or teacher that rambles ... for 2-3 hours after his points have been made ....

This was 2 hours ON point with a known 2 hour time slot. This isn't about a Sunday Night service.

You said yourself you don't know him from a whole in a wall. That statement allows me to give you room for these remarks. You havent been in service and heard him preach a 30 minute or a 2 hour message. If you did, you would realize quickly that he doesn't ramble on and on and much of this discussion is pointless.

[DeuteronomyCh8]

Originally Posted by DAII

The same can be said about a preacher or teacher that rambles ... for 2-3 hours after his points have been made ....

The Word will bear fruit with or without the long-windedness of your favorite preacher.

I have been on both sides of the discussion, Deut ... having ministered and having sat in the pews ...

As a PK, I've come to value the extraordinary efforts of laymen and laywomen who live in the uniqued demands of a post-modern world ... in blended families ... sometimes in single-parent homes working their tails off ... as I've seen a preacher give his life to the cause ....

This is about balance and mutual respect.

A 6 hour service pales to a two hour movie ... and it can breed contempt and prolong a culture that does not have balance.

No one mentioned a "6 hour service." But that statement alone tells me that you definitely don't have an evangelistic calling. If you had ever been on the missionary field you would see that your statement is a reproach to the Gospel.

2 Timothy 2:4
"No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please HIM who hath CHOSEN him to be a soldier."

Balance IS important, but YOU must weigh your own time in "JUST" WEIGHT.
Once we weigh ourselves we find that GOD is "given" very little of our time.
If you spend more time "entertaining" yourselves than "entertaining" GOD. Your not going to make it. Self justification is the start of a reprobate mind.

As for laymen and laywomen in the church. I do RESPECT their efforts. BUT lets NOT forget the SELFLESSNESS of the MINISTRY as well. Friend, when its all said and done the saints go home. But the mission and the burden still remains with the ministry. There is NO off time for the MINISTRY.

The laity must be respected no doubt. But the biggest responsibility os to feed the flock. PLEASE remember:

1 Corinthians 14:32
"And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets"

[DeuteronomyCh8]

"you're" not )sorry for improper spelling.

[DAII]

Thus sayest a forum troll.

Deut,
No balance. No fruit.

In the Church we all minister 24/7 and are most effective outside the walls where we assemble.
Sorry you measure your spirituality and calling on the hours logged in.

Nuff said.