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02-15-2010, 10:02 AM
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Re: Inauguration of Br. David Bernard
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There goes the tea all over my MacBook Pro screen!!!!! LOL
When I was originally ordained in the UPC, Huss Shearer was the Dist. Supt. I distinctly remember, and still have it, being given a towel with my name embroidered on it as a symbol of my calling. I've never forgotten that and it is what I preach and teach about leadership.
It really disturbs me when I see HUGE chairs on platforms, HUGE pictures of the pastor in the church and the church being Bro. so and so's church and it becoming a family business etc. Not saying that DKB, sees it that way, but I do see a disturbing trend in UPC and like churches where the pastor is anything but a servant and is more like a King than anything else. Certainly not all, and I'm not trying to paint with a broad brush, but I've seen far too much it where the people are expected to serve the pastor instead of the other way around, 
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To bad Pressing-On couldn't see this.
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02-15-2010, 10:03 AM
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Re: Inauguration of Br. David Bernard
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Well, you did mention you weren't broadbrushing. I felt I should direct your attention to another area that you could also broadbrush, because you were. You paint a picture of the UPCI as the only people engaging in chairs on the platform, pictures in the foyer, etc. It's just not so. Just sayin' 
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Actually, this is EXACTLY what I said: "but I do see a disturbing trend in UPC and like churches where the pastor is anything but a servant and is more like a King than anything else."
The UPC doesn't have a corner on the market of this type activity, but I wonder how many posters have seen it. I've been to literally 100's of UPC churches over the years and have seen it MANY times! I've also seen it in AOG, COGIC, PAW church as well, which was my point.
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02-15-2010, 10:07 AM
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Re: Inauguration of Br. David Bernard
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Actually, this is EXACTLY what I said: "but I do see a disturbing trend in UPC and like churches where the pastor is anything but a servant and is more like a King than anything else."
The UPC doesn't have a corner on the market of this type activity, but I wonder how many posters have seen it. I've been to literally 100's of UPC churches over the years and have seen it MANY times! I've also seen it in AOG, COGIC, PAW church as well, which was my point. 
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02-15-2010, 10:08 AM
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Re: Inauguration of Br. David Bernard
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To bad Pressing-On couldn't see this.
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I did see that. All the other negative comments make that one small in comparison. Just sayin'.
Okay, I'm out. Just getting things going around here on Monday morning! You don't have to thank me!
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02-15-2010, 10:10 AM
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Re: Inauguration of Br. David Bernard
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It doesn't change the fact that it happens in MANY UPC churches as well.....far too many!!!! It shouldn't be "named once!" IMHO
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02-15-2010, 10:11 AM
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Re: Inauguration of Br. David Bernard
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I did see that. All the other negative comments make that one small in comparison. Just sayin'.
Okay, I'm out. Just getting things going around here on Monday morning! You don't have to thank me! 
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Not one negative comment about DKB
One BIG positive comment about UPC
What Pressing-On wants to see
Priceless.
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02-15-2010, 10:13 AM
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Re: Inauguration of Br. David Bernard
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It doesn't change the fact that it happens in MANY UPC churches as well.....far too many!!!! It shouldn't be "named once!" IMHO
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Well, MOW, we all have our opinions about everything. The bottom line is that you are not any more perfect in everything you do anymore than I am or the UPCI. So, maybe we should all go do something a little more important for the Kingdom of God.
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02-15-2010, 10:14 AM
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Re: Inauguration of Br. David Bernard
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Not one negative comment about DKB
One BIG positive comment about UPC
What Pressing-On wants to see
Priceless.
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There are none so blind as those that will not see.
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02-15-2010, 10:15 AM
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Re: Inauguration of Br. David Bernard
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There are none so blind as those that will not see. 
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At least you realize your problem.
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02-15-2010, 10:16 AM
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Re: Inauguration of Br. David Bernard
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At least you realize your problem.
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