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02-25-2010, 05:46 PM
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Re: Do We Have Hatred In Our Hearts?
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Originally Posted by missourimary
Light, it is not THAT the truth is told that we are talking about in certain threads, but the spirit in which it is told, and the attitude that goes with the telling.
Pharisee love? No. Pharisees had no "fuzzy love." They had no love at all-at least not for anyone but themselves. They were judgmental, quick to look down on others, desirous of displaying their "holiness", loving to be seen of men and praised by men. They stood on the street corners, making long prayers. They wore their prayer shawls and phylacteries as a means of proving their "godliness" when really all that they did only showed how carnal they really were.
But this thread was meant to be introspective, Light. Not an opportunity to place those one disagrees with under a microscope, but rather to look in the mirror and ask God to show us what WE really are, each of us individually.

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I assume that you are referring to people who talk face to face because I know you don't have the ability to tell what spirit one is in when they post the truth on line and neither do I.
A Pharisee spirit is a spirit of self-righteousness. Some that talk about love continually, use the internet as a street corner.Thus a Pharisee spirit.
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02-25-2010, 07:09 PM
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Re: Do We Have Hatred In Our Hearts?
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I assume that you are referring to people who talk face to face because I know you don't have the ability to tell what spirit one is in when they post the truth on line and neither do I.
A Pharisee spirit is a spirit of self-righteousness. Some that talk about love continually, use the internet as a street corner.Thus a Pharisee spirit.
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Pharisees didn't talk about love, Light. They discussed alot of rules, but never love.
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02-25-2010, 08:38 PM
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Re: Do We Have Hatred In Our Hearts?
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Pharisees didn't talk about love, Light. They discussed alot of rules, but never love. 
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You are evidently not getting the point! The point is most that talk about love all the time do just that, "talk". Talk on the internet street corner.
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02-25-2010, 09:09 PM
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Re: Do We Have Hatred In Our Hearts?
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When the truth is told to sinners some here call that hate. Actually when the true plan of salvation is explained to the lost,
" THAT'S REAL LOVE"
If one has real love for the lost and not the warm and fuzzy so-called love you read about here so much, one would not tell any one they are saved at repentance, or you can go to heaven without being baptized in Jesus name and filled with the HG with the evidence of speaking in tongues.
Real love seems hateful for some who lost and others who are lost appreciate someone who will tell them the truth.
You say sometimes Christians hate Christians.
Some Christians can ooze fuzzy love, some are masters at this fuzzy love.
This fuzzy love is not a real Christian love, it's called Pharisee love.
Real Christian love is standing by your brother or sister through thick or thin.
Real Christian love is having your brothers and sisters back when they are down.
Real Christian love will not ask for help then when the one they ask for help needs help refuse to help.
Real Christian love is not words on paper or the internet but real love is Godly action according to the guide lines of the bible. 
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Originally Posted by Light
I assume that you are referring to people who talk face to face because I know you don't have the ability to tell what spirit one is in when they post the truth on line and neither do I.
A Pharisee spirit is a spirit of self-righteousness. Some that talk about love continually, use the internet as a street corner. Thus a Pharisee spirit.
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Originally Posted by Light
You are evidently not getting the point! The point is most that talk about love all the time do just that, "talk". Talk on the internet street corner.
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Ummm, pardon me, but where in the first two statements do you think I should have read the third? However, I think I understand your "point" quite well. I just happen to disagree wholeheartedly with it.
And oh, by the way, this thread, again, was supposed to be about whether we had hatred in our own hearts, not about pointing fingers or looking down on others. I have done you the service of starting a thread on Pharisiaism. I will not answer any more of your comments off topic on this thread. If that one doesn't suit, I could start one entitled "Do We Have Love in Our Hearts" so that you would have a place to vent about those who do. This one simply asks if we have hatred in our hearts. The question is solely introspective.
Sorry everyone else. The original question was Do we have hatred in our hearts?
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What we make of the Bible will never be as great a thing as what the Bible will - if we let it - make of us.~Rich Mullins
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.~Galileo Galilei
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02-26-2010, 02:37 AM
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Re: Do We Have Hatred In Our Hearts?
I'm interested in your post, as I've been wondering the same lately. I see friends on Facebook who are leaders, writing what I perceive as hate-filled articles laced around truth. In a day when people are struggling so much, there's so much slinging about "putting your work before God" and "stop your whining about your money and just budget better" and the ones writing the articles have no clue what some are going through in this hour. I find it appalling, but feel it would display a bad spirit on my part to oppose. I guess I just don't like insensitive know-it alls.
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02-26-2010, 09:01 AM
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Re: Do We Have Hatred In Our Hearts?
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Originally Posted by Maximilia
I'm interested in your post, as I've been wondering the same lately. I see friends on Facebook who are leaders, writing what I perceive as hate-filled articles laced around truth. In a day when people are struggling so much, there's so much slinging about "putting your work before God" and "stop your whining about your money and just budget better" and the ones writing the articles have no clue what some are going through in this hour. I find it appalling, but feel it would display a bad spirit on my part to oppose. I guess I just don't like insensitive know-it alls.
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It's sad to see some of the things that are being said and written without regard for people's circumstances or situations, you are right. It sounds like you have a compassion and desire to do the right things and to see the right things said and done.
Our words can have a huge impact on people-either in pushing them away or drawing them in. I've seen the same things you have, and haven't known how to handle it in a right spirit either. It's discouraging to read and hear those things. I guess when we have gone through things ourselves, it is easier to empathize and have compassion when we see others in their trials.
It's comforting to know that Jesus has been where we are. He understands what we are going through, and is there to comfort us through troubles. And if we fall, He doesn't point his finger, but holds out His hand to help us back up.
As humans, it's often easier to see others' faults and failures than to take time to look for their strengths. But that is what Jesus did, repeatedly, and what He still does today. So I pray that He will correct my vision, so that I may see more as He does. Until I see some of what He sees, I'll never come close to loving like He loves.
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What we make of the Bible will never be as great a thing as what the Bible will - if we let it - make of us.~Rich Mullins
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.~Galileo Galilei
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