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04-15-2010, 07:20 AM
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Re: JCM Reunion / AMC Conference Check In Thread
If there is any proof that these "ole time pentecstal" conservatives are out of touch, cultic, irrelevant and are apostles of a withered and dying movement and theology, it's this thread.
Anyone who brands someone like CC1 as a "liberal" over religious nit-picking has their heads in the sand. Heck, CC1 is a right-wing reactionary.
Actually, a lot of these pentecostal liberals are more "cultic" about their political beliefs than religious beliefs. While I am basically accepted by my old comrades even though I am no longer a pentecostal, I have been de-friended on Facebook by more than one because they are frustrated that they cannot answer my political arguments with the standard right-wing palaver.
I wasn't able to attend the 2010 JCM reunion. I had school and am in a production of "Antony and Cleopatra" and the rehearsal schedule was intense that week.
I attended the reunion in 2005. I enjoyed it and it was one of the great experiences in my life. Hats off to Joel Lewis (Mr. Steinway) for his organizing of that.
What was great about the 2005 reunion? It was relatively unstructured and limited to the 70s group.
I would probably have attended the 2010 reunion had I not had other obligations. BUT: I wasn't crazy about this one attempting to come off as a GRAND, ALL-TIME JCM reunion with a schedule like a general conference.
Heck, I don't know people that attended there in the 80s and 90s. Why would I want to go out of my way to reminisce with them?
I guess I have a right to say this as an alumnus: the more and more these reunions get structured like a general conference or a music conference, the less and less interest I will have in them.
Now, despite the fact many of us have gone in different directions (of course most of us have realized the illogic and silliness and legalism of these so-called "standards), I value the friendships I made at JCM, they are lifelong. Whether someone so totally precious as Renda, those that are still old time pentecostal like Tony and Sharla, etc., the liberal pentecostals like Eddie and Sherri, and on and on.
I personally have NO interest in honoring JCM as an institution. The UPC "Bible School" paradigm is worthless and thank goodness seems to be dying. Unaccredited colleges that take peoples' money are a blight.
So any reunion--the 2010 seemed to move more in this direction than 2005--that wants to honor JCM AS AN INSTITUTION will make me more and more disenchanted and more and more inclined to stay away.
Thank goodness, JCM is closed, dead, buried and defunct. Let it stay that way.
The UPC is too far down the road to oblivion, in my opinion, for this to happen, but the best thing they could do would be for their other "bible schools" to follow JCM into never-never land and begin (what for them) will be the long, slow, painful process to have real accredited, colleges.
Of course that would take discipline, money, vision and a willingness to promote academic freedom--things the UPC is woefully short of in 2010.
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04-15-2010, 07:33 AM
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Re: JCM Reunion / AMC Conference Check In Thread
Tim - we missed ya!
You would have approved of the reunion, I believe. We had time (breakout) where it was just the era that you attended. It wasn't anymore "structured" than the first one with the exception of that one thing the breakouts.
AND......we didn't have a long singspiration!
 no one's called me precious before......
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04-15-2010, 07:46 AM
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Re: JCM Reunion / AMC Conference Check In Thread
I read this today, and thought of this thread:
The Whisper of God Thought for the Day: “If we judge others are we not stepping on God’s toes by trying to do His job?” Have a fantastic day today my friends! – Elmer Laydon
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04-15-2010, 07:56 AM
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Re: JCM Reunion / AMC Conference Check In Thread
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I read this today, and thought of this thread:
The Whisper of God Thought for the Day: “If we judge others are we not stepping on God’s toes by trying to do His job?” Have a fantastic day today my friends! – Elmer Laydon
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Exactly!
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04-15-2010, 08:26 AM
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Re: JCM Reunion / AMC Conference Check In Thread
Thank God so many have continued to be led out of the box, He is so much bigger and greater that manmade institutions.
Jesus came to establish the "Kingdom of God" and men established "religious institutions" each in their own image.
Currently reading "The Scandal of the Dead Sea Scrolls" and the history of how now for sixty years the RCC has delayed, suppressed and controlled the flow of infomation gleaned from these early historical documents, mainly because of the fear that the information will clearly show that that institution is totally out of step with early believers.
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04-15-2010, 08:37 AM
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Re: JCM Reunion / AMC Conference Check In Thread
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LOL....this is an old southern saying.
You can tell where Renda's from!
I've heard it all my life.
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04-15-2010, 08:39 AM
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Re: JCM Reunion / AMC Conference Check In Thread
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LOL....this is an old southern saying.
You can tell where Renda's from!
I've heard it all my life.
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You are right!
It's like someone that's going to say something "questionable" about someone prefacing it by saying "bless her heart".....she shouldn't wear that dress!
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04-15-2010, 08:42 AM
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Re: JCM Reunion / AMC Conference Check In Thread
i am glad you guys had a great time, and i am sorry i wasnt there to give golf lessons, i heard there were many in need of one, lol
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04-15-2010, 08:59 AM
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Re: JCM Reunion / AMC Conference Check In Thread
Looked that JCM Reunion website..found this tidbit... absolutely hilarious!!!!
http://www.jcmreunion2010.com/importantinfo.html
and I quote...
ALL ARE WELCOME!
We welcome all ALUMNI, SPOUSES, and FRIENDS to attend this event. We also welcome everyone from ANY RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION and those who may not currently attend any church at all. For a successful event, we expect everyone to speak and treat each other with respect and love. Haters and Judges will be given Room Restriction
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04-15-2010, 09:04 AM
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Re: JCM Reunion / AMC Conference Check In Thread
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Greetings all its the old yisrealm back, I have an "o" in my name this time, I just could not help but get back on here and comment on this JCM reunion episode.
1. If I were in the leadership I would be mourning between the porch and the altar for the drift away from outward Holiness and Separation.
2. Sis. Marietta (sp?) is to be commended for her Holiness neckline these are rare these days, I couldn't see the hemline so I commend what I can see.
3. What in the world is Lanny thinking with that dyed hair and graphic T, that is enough to scare small children.
Blesings to all !
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