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CC1 · #**101** 02-17-2007, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by rrford

And it amazes me how manyh of the men I fellowship have found that place.

Haven't we had this discussion a myriad of times?

Leave Myriad out of this. She has nothing to do with it!!!!!

rrford · #**102** 02-17-2007, 10:08 AM

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Even though I visit a lot and try to keep up my many years away from the UPC is really glaring now and then such as about a year ago when I first heard about WH and the Church of Breakfast Champions.

Here is a guy who had one of the most successful UPC churches in Houston and I had never heard about him. The big guys back in my day for Houston were Kilgore, Dees, Fauss, and Mitchell.

Grace Church was then a church of around 200-300 in Humble and I didn't even know about Bro. Green's church. Now those two churches along with the Breakfast church are all exUPC and probably have more members than all of the UPC churches left in the area combined.

CC1, I am laughing out loud right here about your post. COC may be larger than some of the UPC in Houston but they can thank the Hoover Method of Evangelism for that.

Further, well...never mind.

CC1 · #**103** 02-17-2007, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Brother RR was that a request??? .... Queen is in the house to bless you ...

http://respiracreative.com/champ.mp3

Now that Freddie Mercury was a "man's man" if you know what I mean!

SDG · #**104** 02-17-2007, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by rrford

CC1, I am laughing out loud right here about your post. COC may be larger than some of the UPC in Houston but they can thank the Hoover Method of Evangelism for that.

Further, well...never mind.

Is that a Holy-Ghost filled barb???

rrford · #**105** 02-17-2007, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Brother RR was that a request??? .... Queen is in the house to bless you ...

http://respiracreative.com/champ.mp3

I can assure you my blessings come from the King and if Queen starts singing and handing out blessings it is time to find a different church.

Coonskinner · #**106** 02-17-2007, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by CC1

Even though I visit a lot and try to keep up my many years away from the UPC is really glaring now and then such as about a year ago when I first heard about WH and the Church of Breakfast Champions.

Here is a guy who had one of the most successful UPC churches in Houston and I had never heard about him. The big guys back in my day for Houston were Kilgore, Dees, Fauss, and Mitchell.

Grace Church was then a church of around 200-300 in Humble and I didn't even know about Bro. Green's church. Now those two churches along with the Breakfast church are all exUPC and probably have more members than all of the UPC churches left in the area combined.

Speaking of "Breakfast of Champions," I was doing some personal evangelism a while back by going fishing with a guy who is as rough as they come.

He has been something of a local legend in the barroom brawling department, and is extremely uncouth.

But he likes me for some reason and even calls me "Brother Carroll," though I have never tried to encourage anything like that.

Anyway, I met him at a farm pond where we had permission early one morning, about 6:30 AM.

While I was making my first cast, he opened his cooler, pulled out a Budweiser, popped the top, and drained it in one big chug-a-lug.

Sighing with satisfaction, he grinned at me and said, "The breakfast of champions."

rrford · #**107** 02-17-2007, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Is that a Holy-Ghost filled barb???

Nah. Just a pragmatic and correct assessment.

SDG · #**108** 02-17-2007, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by rrford

Nah. Just a pragmatic and correct assessment.

God bless the SPIN

Coonskinner · #**109** 02-17-2007, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

God bless the SPIN

No spin.

CC1 · #**110** 02-17-2007, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by rrford

CC1, I am laughing out loud right here about your post. COC may be larger than some of the UPC in Houston but they can thank the Hoover Method of Evangelism for that.

Further, well...never mind.

Could be true as I know nothing about them. However my experience is that people don't come unless they want to.

I think a lot of UPC folks no longer believe the legislated standards,etc and churches like Grace in Humble and COC are natural fits for those folks tired of the condemnation and judgmentalism.

I know of a church where the leadership had changed their views long before the church did but were afraid to take any public stands or change the church because several of the most affluent church members were pretty conservative. This went on for a couple of years but when they finally went with their convictions their church has been extraordinarily successful and grown and been blessed. I don't know if they lost the rich folks they were worried about or not but if they did God has certainly replaced them many times over.