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Re: Are Trinitarians Saved?
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I'm still waiting on you to show me why being baptized in the name of the Lord only without Jesus is going to send me to hell...
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I believe your post answers that...."without Jesus".
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05-20-2010, 12:51 PM
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Re: Are Trinitarians Saved?
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I believe your post answers that...."without Jesus".
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The bible says they did it in Acts 10:48. Were those people lost?
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05-20-2010, 12:57 PM
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05-20-2010, 12:57 PM
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Re: Are Trinitarians Saved?
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The bible says they did it in Acts 10:48. Were those people lost? |
It does not say they did it "without Jesus"...I have no doubt they knew the name of the Lord is Jesus and baptized in his name...obedient to Acts 2:38 and in Acts 19:5....being after chapter 10...no reason to have the revelation of who Jesus is and then leave his name out of baptism that I can see.
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05-20-2010, 12:58 PM
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Re: Are Trinitarians Saved?
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It does not say they did it "without Jesus"...I have no doubt they knew the name of the Lord is Jesus and baptized in his name...obedient to Acts 2:38 and in Acts 19:5....being after chapter 10...no reason to have the revelation of who Jesus is and then leave his name out of baptism that I can see. |
So why doesn't the bible say they did it in the name of Jesus in Acts 10:48? Do you think it really means they did even though it doesn't say it?
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05-20-2010, 01:04 PM
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Re: Are Trinitarians Saved?
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So why doesn't the bible say they did it in the name of Jesus in Acts 10:48? Do you think it really means they did even though it doesn't say it? |
yes..and i believe they submerged them in water, they probably were wearing robes, the water was cold, and many other things that they didnt actually say in that scripture. It was Jesus name before and after that scripture so I don't have any reason to doubt it. Jesus is the name of our Lord.
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05-20-2010, 01:08 PM
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Re: Are Trinitarians Saved?
BECAUSE OF SIN YOU BURN....
are trintarians saved>? if they repent they got saved from their sins like anybody else.
next baptism - if they baptise father, son, holy ghost ,,those are just title and not a name ..
JESUS IS THE NAME ,,,OF THE FATHER ,OF THE SON , OF THE HOLY GHOST...
SO THEY MUST CONTINUE ON ...
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05-20-2010, 01:18 PM
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Re: Are Trinitarians Saved?
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yes..and i believe they submerged them in water, they probably were wearing robes, the water was cold, and many other things that they didnt actually say in that scripture. It was Jesus name before and after that scripture so I don't have any reason to doubt it. Jesus is the name of our Lord.
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So then you believe that verse means they were actually baptized in the name of Jesus Christ and not just in the name of the Lord, well what if i believe that it means they were baptized with the words in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost? You are making the leap that it means Jesus, so I feel just as justifed in making the leap that it means Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
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05-20-2010, 01:18 PM
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Re: Are Trinitarians Saved?
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I have never heard a Trinitarian say Oneness people are going to hell!!!! But Oneness peeps send evreyone else to hell!!!! Why is that???!!
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You haven't been around the right Trinitarians. I have heard all kinds of stuff from Trinitarians including that OPs are going to hell
Trinitarians send everyone to hell. Their own creed says you have to believe in the Trinity!!! Why is that???!!!
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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05-20-2010, 01:20 PM
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Re: Are Trinitarians Saved?
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BECAUSE OF SIN YOU BURN....
are trintarians saved>? if they repent they got saved from their sins like anybody else.
next baptism - if they baptise father, son, holy ghost ,,those are just title and not a name ..
JESUS IS THE NAME ,,,OF THE FATHER ,OF THE SON , OF THE HOLY GHOST...
SO THEY MUST CONTINUE ON ...
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Don't you ever feel presumptuous saying things like that? I'm not wanting to pick a fight, and I used to say the same things. As I studied the history of the church however, and Christian theology (many different types) I began to feel humbled and learned that I needed to tone down my rhetoric.
Most of what I had been taught in an Apostolic church about the Trinity and Trinitarians in general turned out to simply not be so.
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