She denied the statement as being untrue, that she had not committed adultery.
The truth is always a defense against slander, if the pastor could have proven that the statements he made were true, or even that he had not acted recklessly with what he thought was true he could have beat this complaint. The pastor should resign, this is a disgraceful act.
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But because through his manipulative tactics ... it leaves the hearers to pick from these heinous act which adds to the grievous nature of the slander ....
Which is why the lawsuit was justified. It was a bad play, for sure.
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And I agree that it was silly to call wearing a bikini an act of fornication. My feeling is that the husband suspected more (which is why they divorced), but that the bikini *episode* was probably his only "evidence."
Or, and just as likely, the husband found someone else and was looking for a way out.
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I think the pastor should have never talked about the lady in church, period. In private would have been much better. I think it harmed him and his family, also.
Agreed. And feeling the need to justify his daughter's interest in this man is the root of the issue. The fact that he obviously condoned the relationship should have been enough to answer the congregation's concerns without dragging this other lady into it. And if anyone had questions, they could have been handled one on one.
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She denied the statement as being untrue, that she had not committed adultery.
The truth is always a defense against slander, if the pastor could have proven that the statements he made were true, or even that he had not acted recklessly with what he thought was true he could have beat this complaint. The pastor should resign, this is a disgraceful act.
I know you are not part of the GA Bar but will the pastor himself have to pay, or will the church?
is this kind of thing covered by the churches libility policy?
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"[Driver's Attorney] said Angela Driver was accused in front of the congregation in effect of nine acts that ranged from bestiality to prostitution to child molestation because the pastor never named which one she actually was accused of doing."
Exactly! "accused....in effect of" is also important.
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But because through his manipulative tactics ... it leaves the hearers to pick from these heinous act which adds to the grievous nature of the slander ....
He was better served to say what it was at the pulpit .... than have to explain himself in court.
Dan that is what I said already.
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Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
She denied the statement as being untrue, that she had not committed adultery.
The truth is always a defense against slander, if the pastor could have proven that the statements he made were true, or even that he had not acted recklessly with what he thought was true he could have beat this complaint. The pastor should resign, this is a disgraceful act.
Baron, can you explain why, for religious purposes, the church is not allowed to define fornication in this case? The plaintiff's attorney, as part of the legal proceeding, seemed to make it an issue how the state defined fornication
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The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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