UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit! - Page 14

jfrog · #**131** 07-13-2010, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

jfrog, the implication with this line of reasoning. I object to the innuendo as a whole, which can be taken quite far.

Divorces take time. Especially divorces where adultery can't be shown to have taken place (and apparently this was one of them). The fact is 3 months after a divorce seems very fast for an engagement. Given that finalizing a divorce can take soo long, the likely sequence of events would seem to suggest that the divorce process was moving right along. The guy and the pastors daughter started to "sense some sparks between them" while he was going through the divorce process. The divorce was finalized. They began seeing each other more. They got engaged. The pastor offered his approval in front of the whole church.

Baron1710 · #**132** 07-13-2010, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd

I know you are not part of the GA Bar but will the pastor himself have to pay, or will the church?

is this kind of thing covered by the churches libility policy?

It depends. The church insurance may pay, or if he has an umbrella policy (a good idea for any pastor) but the insurance may try to avoid paying if they find some grounds. Not sure what GA law is for insurance but sometimes deliberate acts by an individual may preclude insurance coverage.

Jermyn Davidson · #**133** 07-13-2010, 12:41 PM

I am glad he was convicted.

I've seen and have heard about Pastors doing things like what this guy did and it seems to be rooted in something other than love.

The Bible speaks about publicly exposing and disfellowshipping the Christian who is unrepentant and persistent in sin and from what I have read, this does not appear to be the case.

jfrog · #**134** 07-13-2010, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

And I agree that it was silly to call wearing a bikini an act of fornication. My feeling is that the husband suspected more (which is why they divorced), but that the bikini *episode* was probably his only "evidence."

Possibly. I find it strange that no one mentions the cause for their divorce.

MissBrattified · #**135** 07-13-2010, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

Divorces take time. Especially divorces where adultery can't be shown to have taken place (and apparently this was one of them). The fact is 3 months after a divorce seems very fast for an engagement. Given that finalizing a divorce can take soo long, the likely sequence of events would seem to suggest that the divorce process was moving right along. The guy and the pastors daughter started to "sense some sparks between them" while he was going through the divorce process. The divorce was finalized. They began seeing each other more. They got engaged. The pastor offered his approval in front of the whole church.

The article doesn't state that they were engaged at the time of the statement. He said at that point that they were "going to be romantically involved." e.g., dating?

My parents met and dated for only a couple of months before they married. Lots of couples have quick romances. Not my cup of tea, but it does happen.

Cindy · #**136** 07-13-2010, 12:45 PM

Did I misread, or was there mention of an audio recording of the church service in which the accusations took place?

jfrog · #**137** 07-13-2010, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710

Or, and just as likely, the husband found someone else and was looking for a way out.

Or just as likely is the divorce was initiated before any involvment with the pastors daughter and without the husband expecting his wife was cheating on him with that man.

MissBrattified · #**138** 07-13-2010, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cindy

Did I misread, or was there mention of an audio recording of the church service in which the accusations took place?

Yes, they taped the services, and so there was a recording of the statement.

DAII · #**139** 07-13-2010, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Baron, can you explain why, for religious purposes, the church is not allowed to define fornication in this case? The plaintiff's attorney, as part of the legal proceeding, seemed to make it an issue how the state defined fornication

The state has to define adultery with certain parameters or they could go with Jesus' definition of just thinking it ... and we could try to prosecute against thought bubbles.

jfrog · #**140** 07-13-2010, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

The article doesn't state that they were engaged at the time of the statement. He said at that point that they were "going to be romantically involved." e.g., dating?

My parents met and dated for only a couple of months before they married. Lots of couples have quick romances. Not my cup of tea, but it does happen.

So from the time of engagement to marriage was less than 4 months.... WOW!