UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!

[MrsMcD]

Originally Posted by Charnock

At the very least, stupidity.

I love how you guys give her all of the benefit of the doubt, but staple Fogarty to the nearest cork board.

He is a good man. He just made a bad decision. It could happen to any pastor.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by jfrog

For the compromising situation, you can't even say whether she was in a compromising situation. You don't know if the man's wife was there or not. (if she was then it most definetely wasn't a compromising situation).

As for what the pastor said, he called wearing a bikini in front of a man a sin of fornication. You are seriously okay with that?

Well, I think I read that you think a bikini is acceptable in mixed company. Did I read you right on that?

[DAII]

Originally Posted by Charnock

Now that's the unmitigated truth right there.

It's chauvinism and blatant judaizing hypocrisy.

[Charnock]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

This woman tried three times to talk
to Fogarty and he ignored her.

Are you trying to defend someone who may not have had both sides of the story
when he said what he did over the pulpit?

I know Mark Fogarty. I do not know her.

I'm a hypocrite, and completely biased.

I would ignore someone who was threatening to sue me as well.

[Charnock]

Originally Posted by DAII

It's chauvinism and blatant judaizing hypocrisy.

Great use of adverbs and adjectives.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by MrsMcD

He is a good man. He just made a bad decision. It could happen to any pastor.

I find it very hard to believe he would pick only ONE incident and tank her on it. Just can't see that. There is more to this story. It just doesn't make sense to have one isolated issue bring down the house.

[DAII]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Maybe so, Danny. Maybe so. Would you want your wife to wear a bikini in front of your male friends?

Would not make her a HO, a fornicator or lascivious .... or make me file for divorce, like Charnock ...

She would do her best to be discreet.

Nor would I use it as fodder to get to the pastor's daughter or legitimize a divorce.

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by Charnock

I know Mark Fogarty. I do not know her.

I'm a hypocrite, and completely biased.

I would ignore someone who was threatening to sue me as well.

So you are okay with her wearing a bikini being grounds for divorce... and subsequent remarriage?

[Esther]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Yeah. When she made that claim she was literally betting $500 Gs that her "innocent" plea was going to hold up in court.

I'm not on the "bikini" lady's side any more than I'm on the "grumpy old preacher's" side. If the Gospel had been preached or even slated to be preached that Tuesday night, none of this would have ever happened.

I have to amen this comment. I am afraid way to many ministers have lost their fear of the pulpit and use it for their own goals. If his daughter was involved with the man, seems to me there was a personal agenda involved.

If the pastor had not gone to her in private first he was out of order according to the scriptures.

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Again, if he loved her, the bikini incident could have been worked through. It's just that I can't imagine something else wasn't going on before she got to that place.

Agreed, I think there was more to this story and going by what I have read thus far, seems to me the "family" was involved.

[DAII]

Originally Posted by Charnock

I know Mark Fogarty. I do not know her.

I'm a hypocrite, and completely biased.

I would ignore someone who was threatening to sue me as well.

And it would could cost you 500K