Apostolic Friends Forum
Tab Menu 1
Go Back   Apostolic Friends Forum > The Fellowship Hall > Fellowship Hall
Facebook

Notices

Fellowship Hall The place to go for Fellowship & Fun!


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-05-2010, 03:58 PM
JPagan JPagan is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 4
When God Pressures You Into Pain

Fishermen know the sea, but they also know they sky. They understand that knowing the color of the horizon, the types of clouds present, the movement, the smell, and the feel and velocity of the breeze can determine life or death. A wrong move can put you into shipwreck.

If it's dark, clouds are mounting, and the water seems rigid... it may not be a great decision to go out on the lake for the afternoon!

How many times I have looked for the will of God to place my boat on easily manuevered waters. How many times I have heard some say, "that simply is not the will of God, what is he thinking?", in other words, "it's so obvious that he is heading for shipwreck - can't he SEE THE SKY!!"

Mark 6:45
"And straightway he CONSTRAINED His disciples to get into the ship, and to go to the other side..."

The all-knowing God pressured sky-knowing men to get into a ship on a not-so-good, very bad day.

This is a process to which every called minister of God must submit. It is the process of understanding that the will of God is often done in the midst of obvious circumstances which are bent toward the not-so-favorable and absolutely uncomfortable and generally fearful!

But it will cause you to call on God.
But it will put your feet on the waves of the miraculous.
But it will give you a new dimension of the Revelation of God.
But it will show you the power of a promise.
But it will show you God's ability to resign your fears.
But it will prepare you for the "Legion"-level of God you meet on the other side.

Abraham was in the will of God... and he was on his way to sacrifice his son.
Paul was in the will of God...shipwrecked and viper-bitten.

If it doesn't require faith, it generally doesn't require God. If it doesn't require God, you should questions whether it is the will of God!

On the way to the will of God, we often end up in storms beyond our control. It is in this position that GOD becomes the center of everything. It becomes all about HIM. Jesus knew there was a storm brewing. I believe the disciples has some inclination. Jesus constrains them to get on the boat...puts them into the place of fear, pain, and powerlessness - so HE can walk on the water and invite them into a new dimension!

God is interested in the process of His will. It is not an easy one - but it does unleash a new level of intimacy and trust with the Almighty.

There was never a person in the Word or in History that experienced the power and the raw might of the Lord without first being constrained to get in a ship with a storm brewing in the heavens.

In my recent step of faith in ministry I realized...

The multitude of comfortable opportunities were places without faith and called for the arm of flesh alone.

Then one called that many said, "Bro. you had best look at the sky cause that looks like a rough sea in the making, and God may not be in it."

I have found that he generally is... in the rough sea and in the storm. He has to be... or I die.

Never refuse to step out in faith. It is the hardest thing to do... but the most pleasing to God.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-05-2010, 04:21 PM
Rev Rev is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,539
Re: When God Pressures You Into Pain

Quote:
Originally Posted by JPagan View Post
Fishermen know the sea, but they also know they sky. They understand that knowing the color of the horizon, the types of clouds present, the movement, the smell, and the feel and velocity of the breeze can determine life or death. A wrong move can put you into shipwreck.

If it's dark, clouds are mounting, and the water seems rigid... it may not be a great decision to go out on the lake for the afternoon!

How many times I have looked for the will of God to place my boat on easily manuevered waters. How many times I have heard some say, "that simply is not the will of God, what is he thinking?", in other words, "it's so obvious that he is heading for shipwreck - can't he SEE THE SKY!!"

Mark 6:45
"And straightway he CONSTRAINED His disciples to get into the ship, and to go to the other side..."

The all-knowing God pressured sky-knowing men to get into a ship on a not-so-good, very bad day.

This is a process to which every called minister of God must submit. It is the process of understanding that the will of God is often done in the midst of obvious circumstances which are bent toward the not-so-favorable and absolutely uncomfortable and generally fearful!

But it will cause you to call on God.
But it will put your feet on the waves of the miraculous.
But it will give you a new dimension of the Revelation of God.
But it will show you the power of a promise.
But it will show you God's ability to resign your fears.
But it will prepare you for the "Legion"-level of God you meet on the other side.

Abraham was in the will of God... and he was on his way to sacrifice his son.
Paul was in the will of God...shipwrecked and viper-bitten.

If it doesn't require faith, it generally doesn't require God. If it doesn't require God, you should questions whether it is the will of God!

On the way to the will of God, we often end up in storms beyond our control. It is in this position that GOD becomes the center of everything. It becomes all about HIM. Jesus knew there was a storm brewing. I believe the disciples has some inclination. Jesus constrains them to get on the boat...puts them into the place of fear, pain, and powerlessness - so HE can walk on the water and invite them into a new dimension!

God is interested in the process of His will. It is not an easy one - but it does unleash a new level of intimacy and trust with the Almighty.

There was never a person in the Word or in History that experienced the power and the raw might of the Lord without first being constrained to get in a ship with a storm brewing in the heavens.

In my recent step of faith in ministry I realized...

The multitude of comfortable opportunities were places without faith and called for the arm of flesh alone.

Then one called that many said, "Bro. you had best look at the sky cause that looks like a rough sea in the making, and God may not be in it."

I have found that he generally is... in the rough sea and in the storm. He has to be... or I die.

Never refuse to step out in faith. It is the hardest thing to do... but the most pleasing to God.

Having been in these types of storms for over 30 years I might say a word.

May times when Jesus performed a miracle he asked the person to do something that they could not do....

(Mat 12:13) Then saith he to the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it forth; and it was restored whole, like as the other.

But you can run into major problems when you think you have heard from God to do something that cannot be proven by the word of God.

You feel that God is telling you to go to a certain town and start a work. Many have done this and failed. Was it God that sent them?

Maybe yes and maybe no.

These are the things that will kill your faith.

Be careful of those things that cannot be proven with the word of God!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-05-2010, 04:21 PM
missourimary's Avatar
missourimary missourimary is offline
mary


 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Midwest
Posts: 3,002
Re: When God Pressures You Into Pain

Good post!
__________________
What we make of the Bible will never be as great a thing as what the Bible will - if we let it - make of us.~Rich Mullins
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.~Galileo Galilei
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-05-2010, 04:39 PM
Jermyn Davidson's Avatar
Jermyn Davidson Jermyn Davidson is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: In His Hands
Posts: 13,919
Re: When God Pressures You Into Pain

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rev View Post
Having been in these types of storms for over 30 years I might say a word.

May times when Jesus performed a miracle he asked the person to do something that they could not do....

(Mat 12:13) Then saith he to the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it forth; and it was restored whole, like as the other.

But you can run into major problems when you think you have heard from God to do something that cannot be proven by the word of God.

You feel that God is telling you to go to a certain town and start a work. Many have done this and failed. Was it God that sent them?

Maybe yes and maybe no.

These are the things that will kill your faith.

Be careful of those things that cannot be proven with the word of God!

Lesson learned the hard way-- still reeling from it.
__________________
"The choices we make reveal the true nature of our character."
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-05-2010, 04:54 PM
JPagan JPagan is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 4
Re: When God Pressures You Into Pain

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rev View Post
Having been in these types of storms for over 30 years I might say a word.

May times when Jesus performed a miracle he asked the person to do something that they could not do....

(Mat 12:13) Then saith he to the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it forth; and it was restored whole, like as the other.

But you can run into major problems when you think you have heard from God to do something that cannot be proven by the word of God.

You feel that God is telling you to go to a certain town and start a work. Many have done this and failed. Was it God that sent them?

Maybe yes and maybe no.

These are the things that will kill your faith.

Be careful of those things that cannot be proven with the word of God!
Maybe I should have added a clear disclaimer...

I am not advocating jumping off a cliff for the sole purpose of releasing The Healer in your life.

We must always (1) ensure it aligns with the Word (2) undoubtedly know that the witness of the Holy Ghost is calling us (3) check our motives against the purity of God's will

Thanks.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-05-2010, 04:58 PM
Rev Rev is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,539
Re: When God Pressures You Into Pain

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson View Post
Lesson learned the hard way-- still reeling from it.
You are far from being alone on these things.

Many of us have learned in the school of hard knocks.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
My Wife In Pain. Scott Hutchinson Prayer Closet 13 01-31-2009 07:45 PM
Pain Management rjteacup Deep Waters 34 05-23-2008 03:57 PM
I am in a lot of pain tonight Sister Alvear Fellowship Hall 21 04-25-2008 10:36 AM
In Pain jwharv Prayer Closet 7 07-29-2007 01:48 PM
Mounting pressures: Can pastors survive the strain of change? Malvaro The Library 0 03-07-2007 10:47 AM

 
User Infomation
Your Avatar

Latest Threads
- by Salome
- by Salome

Help Support AFF!

Advertisement




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:01 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.