This message scares me??

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by corvet786c

I am glad you chimed in here aquila, but why 15 minutes, why not 30 or 45 minutes. Where is the line at? Where do I have to be where I can say, hey I am spending time with God enough to do other things and not feel guilt like the original post. Compare to someone like Charles Stanley where he does rebuke, but does it on a much caring, concerned level than the other. Where I would be more prone to do it Charles Stanley way than the other. I just felt controlled and not good enought when I heard that message on Sunday.

1. You need to spend enough time with God to where you can maintain a relationship with him but not so much time with him that you are smothered and won't do anything but spend time with him.

2. You need to read the bible enough to get a spiritual perspective on life but not so much that you don't have time left for life and the good things of it. The bible was never intended to be our life but it was intended to be a gift from God that can supplement our life.

3. Preachers are people and we often put them on pedastels to our own detriment. They sometimes make mistakes. They sometimes don't get a message quite right. Some are more prone to this than others. I'll even agree from my experience that the preacher probably didn't get it quite right in that message you are referring to. But what does it change that he didn't get 1 message quite right? And if it's many more than 1 message then what are you going to do, because in that case that really is the only question worth asking?

[corvet786c]

Originally Posted by jfrog

1. You need to spend enough time with God to where you can maintain a relationship with him but not so much time with him that you are smothered and won't do anything but spend time with him.

2. You need to read the bible enough to get a spiritual perspective on life but not so much that you don't have time left for life and the good things of it. The bible was never intended to be our life but it was intended to be a gift from God that can supplement our life.

3. Preachers are people and we often put them on pedastels to our own detriment. They sometimes make mistakes. They sometimes don't get a message quite right. Some are more prone to this than others. I'll even agree from my experience that the preacher probably didn't get it quite right in that message you are referring to. But what does it change that he didn't get 1 message quite right? And if it's many more than 1 message then what are you going to do, because in that case that really is the only question worth asking?

OK Thank You

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by corvet786c

I am glad you chimed in here aquila, but why 15 minutes, why not 30 or 45 minutes. Where is the line at? Where do I have to be where I can say, hey I am spending time with God enough to do other things and not feel guilt like the original post. Compare to someone like Charles Stanley where he does rebuke, but does it on a much caring, concerned level than the other. Where I would be more prone to do it Charles Stanley way than the other. I just felt controlled and not good enought when I heard that message on Sunday.

Corvet,

I wouldn't put a time limit on prayer or Bible reading. Talk to God every day, and not with a timer on just to make sure you meet a "quota." Talk to Him as long as you need to, and it doesn't have to only be once.

Get in the Word in some way on a regular basis. Sometimes that's reading the Bible, but sometimes it can be in a devotional sense. If I spend 45 minutes watching a sermon or an hour with my girls having a Bible study, I consider that to be my Bible study time. "In the Word" isn't always as cut and dried as just sitting down and reading scripture straight through. (Although that's good, too.)

With our kids, we emphasize consistency over quantity. I tell them that it's better to talk to God for 5 minutes every day than to go all week without praying and then pray for an hour on Sunday. I would rather that they make talking to God and studying the Word a regular part of their lives (e.g., a HABIT), than to only focus on it when they go to church.

Personally, I don't time myself--ever. Do you time your conversations with your friends? No, sometimes you might be on the phone for 5 minutes, and other times you might sit down for coffee and talk for hours.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Why don't you pray and read the word as much as you feel you and or your family need. Be led by the Spirit to pray for others and enjoy your free time

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Corvet,

I wouldn't put a time limit on prayer or Bible reading. Talk to God every day, and not with a timer on just to make sure you meet a "quota." Talk to Him as long as you need to, and it doesn't have to only be once.

Get in the Word in some way on a regular basis. Sometimes that's reading the Bible, but sometimes it can be in a devotional sense. If I spend 45 minutes watching a sermon or an hour with my girls having a Bible study, I consider that to be my Bible study time. "In the Word" isn't always as cut and dried as just sitting down and reading scripture straight through. (Although that's good, too.)

With our kids, we emphasize consistency over quantity. I tell them that it's better to talk to God for 5 minutes every day than to go all week without praying and then pray for an hour on Sunday. I would rather that they make talking to God and studying the Word a regular part of their lives (e.g., a HABIT), than to only focus on it when they go to church.

Personally, I don't time myself--ever. Do you time your conversations with your friends? No, sometimes you might be on the phone for 5 minutes, and other times you might sit down for coffee and talk for hours.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by corvet786c

I am glad you chimed in here aquila, but why 15 minutes, why not 30 or 45 minutes. Where is the line at? Where do I have to be where I can say, hey I am spending time with God enough to do other things and not feel guilt like the original post. Compare to someone like Charles Stanley where he does rebuke, but does it on a much caring, concerned level than the other. Where I would be more prone to do it Charles Stanley way than the other. I just felt controlled and not good enought when I heard that message on Sunday.

There is no line. When you eat lunch do you have a line or do you eat what your body needs? See? You can not eat enough or you can eat too much.

Im not even sure why you are feeling guilt over something you are finding a problem with.

And it seems that it's not so much the content of the message you are saying you have an issue with but how....CS does rebuke but differently..more caring.

Also how can you feel controlled at a message you heard on the internet or radio? I'm saying this to make you think. I don't feel controlled if I hear a message that disagrees with me. I don't feel not good enough by messages I hear. You aren't even attending the church you heard this message from.

My point is, aside from the message you heard at a church you don't attend and did not like the message, what is it about your relationship with the Lord that makes you feel guilt that easily or controlled?

Is your faith in Him or is it in a quantity of works you feel you need to do but aren't sure what amount? Do you pray because you love the Lord and want to be with him and work in His kingdom or do you pray because you think it's a work requirement to save you?

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by corvet786c

Charles Stanley encourages you to read your bible and do the things necessary to be a christian, but says it with love tenderness and compassion, but the message I am refering to in the original post was scary, guilty and felt controlled. I know I need to read more and always draw closer. I guess it was the way it came from the pulpit.

Has Charles stanley SPOKEN IN TONGUES?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Alright then!




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